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Please add to this thread if you see any problems related to the server migration of the Forums.. I have tested everything I can think of, but .... :D
ya never know..
CalumII
06-26-2003, 12:52 AM
Yeah, it's way too fast. I don't have time to sit and ponder while waiting for pages to load. I used to be able to plan out entire responses to posts while waiting for the reply page to come up. Now I'm overwhelmed by speed...aargh!
Cheers,
Calum
PS: Very rarely do I feel this appropriate, but: :banana:
Pete Walen
06-26-2003, 05:11 AM
(wearing my Lead Software QA hat)
Not too bad.
(The developers at the office recognize that as "Near-God-Like" on their scale...) :thumb:
Ayrhead
06-26-2003, 05:15 AM
Only "problem" I see is that everything on my back button reads "bobdunsire.com fourums - Dedicated Serve". Which means I can't tell one back page from another; and I do a lot of backing up. But I'm an ayrhead.
Brendan Dunne
06-26-2003, 07:35 AM
MY GOSH - has anyone tried the "Search" feature.
It is super-duper quick. :thumb:
Thom Lenahan
06-26-2003, 03:55 PM
The only thing that I`ve noticed so far was in coming on to the forums several times today I was greeted with "Hello,Thom Lenahan..." before logging on :shrug: ,but in clicking on to any forum I wasn`t logged on :eek: it was only on the opening page that I appeared to be logged on...Did that make sense :eek: ?........I think I`ll log off now,Thom
Yes indeed Thom, we're in kind of an 'outer limits' like state right now..
If you used the 209.235.17.235 address, then no problems at all ..
But, if you come from bobdunsire.com, then you can see some strange stuff..
Specifically, starting last night the domain tables are being updated all over the web, and if you get (actually not in your control) an updated address, then you're pointed to the dedicated server, but many times you get the old server.. This is the reason I have identified the 'new' Forums with the Dedicated server designation - to make it clear that you're here ..
And having written that, it probably does not make sense.. :shrug:
Basically, for the next day or so, bobdunsire.com may get you to the new server, or may get you to the old server.. and if you're in the old Forums, you might bounce back and forth - looks pretty strange doesn't it :D ..
Thom Lenahan
06-26-2003, 06:30 PM
AAHHHH,yeah....sure,Bob :eek: yeah!!!Hey as long as I can get logged on that`s all I care about!!!!!! :thumb: :wink: ...cheers,Thom
Pete Walen
06-26-2003, 07:45 PM
Actually Bob, it makes pretty decent sense. I suspect that a total "huh?" :eek: would have been the reaction to the precise tech terms/buzz words/jargon.
Cheers -
CalumII
06-27-2003, 03:22 PM
Bob, the problem isn't with the DNS caches - it's seems to be your front pages. I haven't looked extensively to see how many do it, or throughout the forums, but the front page links to forums are hard coded by IP rather than by domain.
When you went to the number during the DNS shakedown, we all had to log in again. As cookies are assigned by domain/IP (I believe, I've never used them), the front page is being served by a different cookie than the individual forum pages - that's what's causing much of the wierdness. I think.
The DNS issue shouldn't cause glitches - once the user's local cache has gotten an up to date IP from their DNS servers, it should always point them at the new IP, barring funny business.
If it's possible to turn the hard links into relative links (ie href="ultimatebb.cgi?bleh=blah"), then that should clear things up. Maybe...
Cheers,
Calum
(who doesn't really see the point of hard linking anyway :shrug: )
CalumII
06-27-2003, 03:30 PM
Oh I see...just looked at the page sources again...not much you can do, really...
Ach well, 'twas a thought...
My $0.02...I would change the server address to the domain name as soon as...most of the US and Europe seems to be resolving now, from the sounds of things; I would stick a note up on the old IP saying 'sorry, wait for the internet to do black magic...only takes a day or two...'
Cheers,
Calum
Yes Calum, I would rather not hard code addresses, but there was no choice given my desire to have minimal outage.. And as soon as the bobdunsire.com resolves to the new IP address, the hard link is no longer needed, and now that is pretty much the case..
In our Forum's situation, changing to a new server, with the old IP address being used by bobdunsire.com, meant I had to use the absolute address for the new Forums.. All my other web stuff was just not a problem, it could wait, but the real time nature of the Forums meant I had to either shut down for the amount of time the DNS updates would take (4-36 hours), or.. use absolute addresses.. Well, that was only one of my little challenges :shrug: I wanted to do it (the switch) with minimal down / outage time, and in fact we lost a few hours of posts, but the Forums were never down .. So I managed to do what I wanted in that part at least..
In the not too distant future I will change the addressing back to domain named..
Les Matheson
06-28-2003, 10:29 AM
Only problem I have noticed is that when I show up on the BB I am logged on, but the minute I go to any of the topics I show up as not logged on, so responding to a post means I have to sign on again, them respond. Not a show stopper, but agravating none the less.
Les
Hi Les,
I ran into the same thing a couple of times. In this case my guess is during the domain name pointers changes, you were on occasion bouncing between the old and new copies of these Forums - each 'forum' requires their own cookie, and if you bounce (for lack of a better word) between them, not by your actions BTW, just sort of a random Net addressing thing - then the cookie you had, is not valid.. and you would appear to be not logged in.
Now that all the Domain Name tables point to the new dedicated server, I don't think this problem should be appearing??
:humm:
FD Piper
07-08-2003, 08:03 PM
Bob,
I am logging onto:
http://209.235.17.235/CGI-BIN/ultimatebb.cgi
and I am not logged in under my username. I click todays activce topics, and I am logged in.
I went into my profile to try to see if there is a "remember me" button for a cookie, but no-go.
I am running pop-up stopper and spy sweeper, does that make a difference?
Thanks,
FD Piper
Hi FD,
Now that I've changed the internal links back to the bobdunsire.com domain name, using the direct IP address will usually result in confused cookies. You can, as you've seen, still use the forums that way, but the cookies are messed up most of the time..
My suggestion is to now go back to the old 'bobdunsire.com/cgi-bin....' link.
:hatoff:
FD Piper
07-09-2003, 06:26 AM
Got it!
Thanks,
FD Piper
Stormy
07-14-2003, 02:57 PM
Bob,
Does the clock need changing?
(See Beer Tent - "What time is it?").
I have just changed the server's clock Stormy :idea:
FYI - our dedicated server is located in a data center in Atlanta Georgia - it's clock is set to East Coast (USA) time... But the Forum clock now set to my local time - Pacific. GMT-8
(The Forum clock had been on Camano Island time :woohoo: )