Trouble logging in

[Patrick Piper]

Hi Bob:

I've had some trouble getting the "log in" page to come up. At times it comes up absent the log in blocks for name and password entry. I can usually get logged in after a few attemps at bringing it up, though. Anything going on with that?

Pat

[Bob]

Hi Pat,

Sorry I missed this question (we were without power for most of yesterday, and only now has my day really calmed down.... Whew)..

You don't stay logged in all the time? It hurts nothing, as it is just done with a cookie on your own machine.. but I know a lot of people share PCs, so log in and out is needed..

To answer your question - I am aware of no problems in this area. My guess would be there must be some confused cache on the path between the Forum server and your machine... The Forum server does a lot of caching on its own, to try to speed things up, and reduce disk access, but none of that should ever create a problem like the one I think you're seeing.

I don't know what firewall, network, ISP caches might be 'in front' of your system? But, if this is a new problem, my guess would be a new setting.. If no new settings.. strange..

FWIW - in most cases when problems start to show up, something has changed browser settings, without being obvious in doing it I mean..

OK... sorry about that.. wanted to be a bit thorough, but it is a lot of words to say "There is no problem that I know of in this area"..

:hatoff:

[Speeder]

Bob, I too have noticed something strange as of late. When I access the site, most time I'm shown as "Not Logged In" yet I can still post messages and replies even if I don't log in. This time I'm seeing the "Hello Speeder" which was always the case in the past.

Haven't altered my set up, all cookies are intact. This started happening just after the last upgrade.

FWIW,

[Bob]

That is strange Speeder - you should not be able to post without the cookie 'saying' you're logged in.. And of course, with that you should get the 'hello' message..

I'll do some research (later today).. And get back to you on this..

Hummmmmmm..

[Speeder]

Bob:

» You are not logged in. Login or register

I'm seeing the above but am responding to your post. Shouldn't be able to do this. Strange eh?? :shrug: :shrug: (6:28pm EST if it helps).

Just noticed something else. The "You are not logged in" message appears only on the main forum page. All the other pages show me as logged in. Whazzup?

Speeder

[Mark A. deJong]

'Cause it's cached... If you refresh the page it should return to normal. Then again, I ain't no computer export. Or ain't I? I dunno.

[Speeder]

Originally posted by Mark A. deJong:
'Cause it's cached... If you refresh the page it should return to normal. Then again, I ain't no computer export. Or ain't I? I dunno. Mark, even a "refresh/reload" doesn't change things and my browser is set to load a fresh page each time anyway. I suspect a glitch with the UBB software. I ran my own forums for a while using UBB and UBB is notorious for small but irritating bugs.

I suspect it has something to do with cookies.

Bob, FWIW UBB has set 3 cookies. One expires later today, one expires at the end of this session and one expires October 31, 2004. I'm going to delete all three (via my browser and not through My Profile) and see what happens with a fresh start.

[Bob]

Just a short update here Speeder - in researching this problem I have found one case where this happened, but only one case, and with non MSIE browser - Mozilla. The problem was not, it appears, recreate-able by other than the person encountering it, so the software provider said the problem was 'obviously' not theirs..

I sent and posted a rather clear :rolleyes: message giving my view that they need to do a bit more on this .. (if you know what I mean - you've dealt with 'em)

Waiting on an answer right now..

So - good news - it has been seen and reported once before - bad news, the software provider didn't think it was really their problem..

[Speeder]

Bob:

The problem was mine. :( :( I had not adjusted my bookmark after you switched to the dedicated server. For everyone else, make sure your bookmark reads

http://www.bobdunsire.com/CGI-BIN/ultimatebb.cgi

FWIW,

[Bob]

Speeder and I have been discussing this privately - In fact he found the information that helped identify the problem. :D

I will add a bit more detail here - during the time of the migration from a shared to this dedicated server - for about a week, we had to use a link to the Forums that was an IP address, rather than a domain name (numbers rather than bobdunsire.com) - because it takes a number of days for domain name tables to be updated - and if you wanted to visit the forums during this time, the IP address was the only way to get here..

Once all the web wide :rolleyes: domain name tables were updates, I changed the Forums internal links to use the domain name again, and asked everyone to switch their bookmarks to the use domain name again.

In this case, the cookie is tied to the domain name / IP address, so one knew Speeder as logged in, one did not. He was only able to post because there was indeed a cookie saying he was logged in - so there was no security issue, it was just that the bookmark to an IP address had a cookie associated that didn't know he was logged in. As soon as he went anywhere from that initial bookmark, he was using domain name addresses, and the cookies were fine, and he was logged in.

Hope this didn't confuse - just wanted to explain a bit more..