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Pendrum
01-19-2005, 07:51 AM
Hi, I am new to tenor drumming and as yet have not had any instruction other than the Ty Fry CD and a Lisa Frazier Video. What I am wondering is if anyone knows where I can get some written tenor drum music? I was able to find a very basic example of 3/4, 4/4 and 6/8 but am having a bit of trouble making that "work" when playing with the pipers. I see a lot of snare drum music out there which makes me wonder if the tenor drummers are mostly just flourishing..
thanks!
Tenortwirl
01-19-2005, 09:26 AM
Go to "canadianstandard.ca" - where to stick your tenor drum - good site.
Bill Janakos
02-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Pendrum:
I was able to find a very basic example of 3/4, 4/4 and 6/8 but am having a bit of trouble making that "work" when playing with the pipers. This is the key statement to it all!
Probably the best reason why there are not that many Tenor drum scores out there is because the Tenor Drum is primarily an ensemble instrument. Tenor drum scores are usually written after the pipers and sides finish their scores. Much consideration needs to be taken after the pipers message their music, the sides to their work, and Bass Drummer gets his/her lines down. Plugging in a tenor drum score from some other band that used a different side score is most likely just not going to work. So typically, all of the tenor parts are written exclusively for each band. This subject can carry on much from here and can start a whole new forum in it’s self. But that is the basic idea.
On the other hand, and in my own opinion, it would be nice to have a set of tenor scores for massed bands and approved by the associations.
Jo-Ann
02-14-2005, 02:53 AM
On the other hand, and in my own opinion, it would be nice to have a set of tenor scores for massed bands and approved by the associations. [/QB]It was pointed out to me that there are massed band scores that are not only approved, but required playing for doing massed bands in Ontario. www.ppbso.org (http://www.ppbso.org) has the music -- go to "links" and then "Massed Band Scores". If I remember correctly, that's where the massed band stuff is, and if anyone will be at Maxville this summer, it's required playing. :eek: If anyone has heard differently, please let me know, as I'm half crazed with learning our new stuff, and this :wow:
Jo-Ann
Pete Walen
02-14-2005, 05:00 AM
Jo-Ann - The PPBSO massed band bass and tenor beatings went up only recently, within the last few weeks. We'll see how long it takes for bands to actually all use them. :shrug:
Celtic Mitch
02-14-2005, 08:21 AM
He...we are actively trying to get togehter with the author of the scores to ensure we have it off by Georgetown. I think it's a great idea because the tenor sections look like a mish mash out there.
Florian Liendl
02-14-2005, 08:46 AM
There are some Tunes on www.bagev.de (http://www.bagev.de)
maybe they may help
Pendrum
02-14-2005, 11:56 AM
Thanks to everyone who responded to me! I have learned a lot and actually feel like I am beginning to know what I should be playing now.
Mr. Peanut
02-14-2005, 03:37 PM
Hey everyone. Just a word about the massed band scores. There's been a little bit of discussion about them being too 1980's and pretty disapointing. just wondering if Ian or any body knows if they're going to be changed to meet proper standards? Might as well know before everyone goes and learns the stuff.
Celtic Mitch
02-14-2005, 04:36 PM
Mr. Peanut, you referring to the side drum scores?
Mike Cole
02-14-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Peanut:
Hey everyone. Just a word about the massed band scores. There's been a little bit of discussion about them being too 1980's and pretty disapointing. just wondering if Ian or any body knows if they're going to be changed to meet proper standards? Might as well know before everyone goes and learns the stuff. Too 80's? :shrug: Proper standards? Please define 'proper standards'.
There has to be a point where the novice players can get started and the massed band bass sections can play with uniformity. As it is now, too many players are doing their own thing in massed bands, and it sounds like it. All that's really needed is a solid uniform pulse to keep everyone in step. The beatings are, IMHO, perfectly suited for the side drum scores, and for "marching up and down the square...".
I really don't believe that these scores were meant to elevate or revolutionize the playing standard of the association. Take, for example, the RSPBA's massed band beating for Highland Laddie...very 50's....but everyone, for the most part, can play it. That, to me, is what a standard setting is all about.
Competition is the place for pushing the creative envelope.
Again, just my opinion.
Penny
02-15-2005, 07:08 AM
Hey Mr. Peanut....
IMHO, the tenor scores seem like they could turn into something very scary on the massed band field. Start with lots of quick beatings, throw in the attempt to use different voices, take out the concept of keeping simple time for awhile, and have lots of people out there that are "reading music" challenged, and I can see (or hear?) alot of muffled stuff with people trying their best, but coming off much the worse.
:shrug:
I've always thought that massed band scores were put together with simplicity in mind to allow the lower grades/new people to be able to play the same thing as everyone else, with a pleasant sound resulting. These scores look quite challenging for average joe to make a success of, and I just can't see it working. To me, less would have been more.
But that is just my opinion..... :confused:
Penny
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Totally Tenors Seminar - London ON - April 16
Mr. Peanut
02-15-2005, 12:35 PM
I was playing in Ian when they were written, and i think they're fine. I think you guys must have taken my comment the wrong way. I have the music and have had it since before it was even published to the public, i was just wondering if they were going to be changed because of the few people that didn't like em'. I'd rather know that they're concrete before learning them. that's all!
Peanut! :D
Celtic Mitch
02-15-2005, 03:05 PM
Well Mr Peanut maybe we can get Ian to answer some of these questions. We are trying to get togehter with Ian for an evening where he can show us the scores to our midsections.
Ian Gibson
02-17-2005, 12:08 PM
I have been away for over a week, so now to catch up on my mail.
Mr. Peanut: Good to hear from you, I miss our get togethers.
Yes the scores have been approved by the music board and I know you won’t have any trouble with them. There may be some minor changes as time goes on, but I don’t foresee it being a big deal. I have had lots of favorable comments about them.
Celtic Mitch:
I am looking forward to your practice and to getting feedback from you section. Thanks.
Mike Cole:
Thanks Mike! I could not have explained it better. We have to keep plugging on in order to be recognized as being an integral part of the band. Without uniformity we will always be “Just the bass and tenors.” This is not meant to be a one man show; we must work and play together as a group.
Penny:
Is it not so that we would stagnate if we were not challenged by what we encounter in life? In order to grow we have to learn new things, even something as simple as a new bar of music, if we are a musician. We read it, memorize it, play it and ultimately feel good because we have mastered it. I think most people will eventually feel like this about the massed band scores, given the opportunity.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to contact me at: ian.gibson@sympatico.ca (mailto:ian.gibson@sympatico.ca)
Mr. Peanut
02-18-2005, 12:31 PM
Hey Ian by the way, if you're in contact with Jay, make sure you give him my best alright? Hope he has a speedy recovery!
Andrew.