View Full Version : Lack of Opprotunity
02-27-2005, 05:59 AM
I know what its like it in EUSPBA when it comes to bass and tenor compeition.... what is it like everywhere else? is every other pipe band organization still lacking in organized mid section competition? how about judges, i heard that half the time the judges at Maxville are not even certified judges??
bass drumming, and especially tenor drumming have come a very long way since i joined the pipe band world, and i would hate to see it flounder. Any chance that there might be a way to get more judges and more games to offer comeptitions for us?? (Wishfuly thinking, i try to be realistic)
What are your thoughts
(and if i am wrong about Maxville please correct me)
02-27-2005, 04:20 PM
for sure... I used to compete in the rhythmic tenor competitions (the one where you need your own piper) and half the time no one even knew where it was or what time it started which made it extremely inconvenient.
but it has come a long way, the first year I competed solo (about 4 years ago) there was only one other person competing in my category so it basically just alternated between us two and we both ended up being Champion Supreme together :)
now there are a lot more people competing and a lot of things are improving...for example now there are drum scores for tenors and basses on the PPBSO website and a lot of people are interested in tenor drumming.
i'm not 100% sure and the Maxville thing, but as far as i know they were actually judges (once i had three judges for my rhythmic thing.. i was quite surprised)... even if they aren't certified judges they get great tenor and bass players to judge it...
02-28-2005, 01:57 AM
The BAGEV (German Bagpipe Society) and the NOVDB (the Dutch Bagpipe Society) have planned the very first competition for this year. The NOVDB will be using the PPBSO rules for the competition, but there will be no official adjudicator. And as I understand there is only one official adjudicator: Tyler Fry. Imagine that he has to travel to the Netherlands to judge a little group of tenordrummers.
The judging will now be done by two of our best tenor drummers.
Burton the Rover
02-28-2005, 07:28 AM
In Ontario Canada, the PPBSO has a separate contest for various levels of Bass and Tenor. For Bass and Flourishing Tenor you stand in a line while the duty band plans, and all play together. For the rythmic tenor, that as mentioned above, is judged indivdually while the competitor is accompianed by a piper and has the option of a snare drummer as well. The judges they have used over the past 5 years or so all are accomplished usually Grade 1 members(including myself....) There has been attempts to have a qualified adjudicator system, but as of yet nothing has developed on that further. It seems for the most part to work well. As for an overall mid section prize, I have always believed it should be judged my a combination of the ensemble and drumming judges as a portion of the band competition.
Hope this gives you a wee bit of insight!
02-28-2005, 10:53 AM
In Denmark and Scandiavia we use 2 judges; 1 for the flourish and 1 for the rythmical stuff (normally one of the side-judges). There are given 60 points (highest score) for the musical parts and 40 points for the flourish (and featering).
We are playing 2-4 minutes, freestyle mode (play what you want) and has to be accompaned by one or two pipers and a sidedrummer.
Until now it hasnīt been a problem getting judges to the competitions /at least not if the side-judge will be judging the musical part.
..so for my bad english :(