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Thomas Grotrian 01-27-2009 01:06 PM

Cock of the North
 
Does anyone know who wrote this (was it William Marshall by any chance?)

Thanks

Thomas

scoutcow 01-27-2009 04:09 PM

Re: Cock of the North
 
I searched in several sources, but they all say 'traditional'.

Thomas Grotrian 01-28-2009 06:24 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
I know, but that is the trouble with a lot of pipe music, if it has been around for more than about three weeks and non-pipers can whictle it, it tends to be classed as traditional.

William Marshall was a fiddler and wrote a lot of strathspeys and reels and his patron was the Duke of Gordon (the Cock of the North) so I just wondered if anyone knew anything? This may be better suited to the History forum.

Adam Sanderson 01-28-2009 07:16 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
I think Cock of the North is descended from an old English tune called Joan's Placket is Torn aka Jones Placket is Rent, which was once played on the trumpet to express derision! It was recorded as being played by a Dutch trumpeter when Charles II flagship, The Royal Charles, was abandoned by it's crew in 1667. It was then captured by the Dutch without a shot being fired, and the tune played from the stern of the vessel as it headed towars Holland, according to Pepy's.

It was first published, AFAIK, in the 1686 edition of Playford's "Dancing Master". The tune is also known as Jumping John and Jumping Joan.
Growing up in the Grampian region, I only ever knew it as "Auntie Mary". :lol:

TwitchyFingers 01-28-2009 09:10 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
What is "AFAIK"? Cock of the North is a good tune I should dust off and play more often.

JIsgren 01-28-2009 09:23 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TwitchyFingers
What is "AFAIK"? Cock of the North is a good tune I should dust off and play more often.

As Far As I Know

Thomas Grotrian 01-28-2009 10:49 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
Thanks Adam, that makes a lot of sense.

Michael New 01-28-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Cock of the North
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Sanderson
Growing up in the Grampian region, I only ever knew it as "Auntie Mary". :lol:

As in "had a canary up the leg of her drawers"?

:roflmao:

Michael

Ian Lawther 01-28-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Cock of the North
 
Had a lass come up when busking in DC and I was expecting "Can you play Amazing Grace?" as was usual but got "Can you play Auntie Mary?" instead which I cheerfully played.

Ian

PS just discovered that my reprint of Playford is based on the 1651 original edition so it doesn't have Jumping John and Jumping Joan" -bummer!

kilberryroddy 01-29-2009 02:09 AM

Re: Cock of the North
 
And if the lady, wants a baby!


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