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buck 10-05-2017 10:17 AM

Thow on D execution
 
Hi,

I'm learning the throw on D. I see a couple of different approaches on you tube, the biggest difference being that some play the low G slowly then the D-C-D fast, while others play the whole G-D-C-D fast. Are the situations where both are right? I prefer the sound of the latter, and that makes more sense from the notation (3 grace notes).

Thanks in advance, Buck

BGP 10-05-2017 10:25 AM

Re: thow on D execution
 
There are 2 types of D throw. 'Heavy' (GDGCD) and 'Light' (GDCD) either is acceptable.... But you seem to be talking about emphasis. Do you have an instructor? Go with what your instructor uses.

BaggyMcPipes 10-05-2017 11:33 AM

Re: Thow on D execution
 
Indeed. Personally, I prefer heavy throws and always play them heavy regardless of notation, (GDGCD).

As far as holding the low G, I'd say that's down to style/preference and it might be very much effected by the tempo and feel of the tune you're playing. I don't think either approach you describe is right or wrong, just different.

Pip01 10-06-2017 02:49 PM

Re: Thow on D execution
 


Oh! buck!,

Comes now that ever re-kindled and re-bubbling pot
of piper's porridge... "Known of Old"... about the ever
lurking "Double D"... or "Throw on D"... Light or Heavy...
and even what the' Devil... to call... th' bleedin' things!! :)

(From hence... perhaps... comes that Old Saw... "Six
pipers... will get you... 15 opinions!!" :)

If... if... you can find one... refer to one of the older CoP
Tutor Books... "The Green Book"... from the 1950s or 60s...
and under the heading... "The Double D"... you shall find
the then three ways... of its accomplishment... though the
first (and possibly the second) example... was preferred...

That Old Devil... Time... passes... and nomenclature also
makes its shifts... and we now have our... "name" bollix... :)

Though I have always preferred the first example that they
gave... choose the one that your ear finds the most pleasing.

As to what to presently call it? As my sainted GrandMama
was wont to say; "Beats th' sh_te outta me!! :)

As with all else in The Piping Game... choose... and get tore
in to it!!... and have a roarin' grand time of it!!

And as you are new, here... Welcome to our (usually :) Happy
Throng... and as with your present inquiry... feel at perfect liberty
to... dive right in to our roiling pot of piping porridge... and swim
(and sometimes flounder) about...with the rest of us!!... :)

All the Best!!

Pip01



Andrew Lenz 10-06-2017 05:26 PM

Re: Throw on D execution
 
Take YouTube with a grain of salt. You can get beginners posting instructional videos.

Sometimes, during learning the D-throw, the Low-G is emphasized since it is often rushed and essentially disappears. Eventually, you'd expect it to sound the same length as the rest of the grace notes that compose the throw. That said, it's music and open to interpretation. As someone else said, play it as your instructor shows you. And if you don't have one, it's very much in your best interest to find one.

Andrew

Pip01 10-10-2017 08:14 AM

Re: Throw on D execution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lenz (Post 1319171)

Sometimes, during learning the D-throw, the Low-G is emphasized since it is often rushed and essentially disappears. Eventually, you'd expect it to sound the same length as the rest of the grace notes that compose the throw.

Andrew


Greetings, to buck, and to All,

Andrew is spot on... as is his usual...and Thank Ye, Andrew...
and The Old Green Book... gave the same counsel.

Where the over-emphasis on the Low G began to creep
in to the playing... was that... in Times of Old... the student
was taught that the beginning... the very foundation of this
gracing... was to plant... that little finger down... and to let
all else... arrive... and equally... ascend ... from there.

And now... and of course... there is that ever looming Pond
of Personal Interpretation... which is the downfall of many...
and hence... Andrew's counsel... to find a good instructor...
and one who's positions... will stand... the Tests of Time...

And... lucky devil... when this one's properly sorted... there's
a slew more of them... just waiting... 'round th' bend... :)

Patience... is the watchword... and more patience... with your
patience... is the need...

Have at it... stay at it... and all will come 'round... right... :)

All the Best!!

Pip01


And Now... a Quick Post Script:

YouTube is a grand method... for the finding of a tune... but
not... necessarily... for how to play.... th' bleedin' thing. :)

(Saw and heard it on the internet!! It must be right. Right? :)




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