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Smjprogrammer 03-14-2019 01:47 AM

Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
The Pipers Warning to His Master was written by the Macdonald clan piper, but did he have a known name? You would think if he was as accomplished as he supposedly was someone would have kept a name.

thevoidboy 03-14-2019 04:43 AM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
Hoping Keith Sanger will chime in.


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K Sanger 03-14-2019 12:34 PM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
Such a short question but a long complicated answer. I have previously covered the background to the tune here
https://www.academia.edu/37436269/The_Pipers_Warning

To paraphrase the event would from contemporary sources have occurred in 1615 when Colla Ciotach was under siege in Dunnyveg Castle on Islay. Colls party escaped under cover of darkness in three boats one of which contained the piper. The 'warning' would have been because the piper played when his boat ran into the ships from the other side thereby giving Coll and the other two boats a warning to head in a different direction.

That being the case then the 'Pipers Warning' was because he played, rather than what he played. That in turn raises two possibilities, that the tune the piper played was re-named the 'pipers warning', or that another piper composed a tune in memory of the event. Arguably it was the latter since under the circumstances where most of the participants were subsequently executed it was unlikely that the actual tune would have been noted.

Regarding it being a MacDonald piper that to is open to question. What is known is that of those escaping from Dunnyveg Castle who remained un-captured were a group of four MacDonald rebels, led by Coll and nine or ten men of other clans, including a Malcolm MacRorie MacLeod, who had scattered individually.

So the piper for a number of reasons was probably not actually a MacDonald. In any case most of the references I have to pipers at that period only tend to give a first name and not 'clan'.

Keith

Smjprogrammer 03-16-2019 06:53 PM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
Sounds like a lot of unknowns, but interesting none the less.

thevoidboy 03-16-2019 07:20 PM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
Welcome to the world of history vs fantasy


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Smjprogrammer 03-18-2019 12:05 AM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
In conclusion is it safe to say The Pipers Warning To His Master was written in the 1640’s as a commemorative tune to the event of 1615? What ever the unknown piper played could have been anything from a scale to a known tune of the time.

Mac an t-Sealgair 03-18-2019 12:19 AM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smjprogrammer (Post 1335786)
In conclusion is it safe to say The Pipers Warning To His Master was written in the 1640’s as a commemorative tune to the event of 1615? What ever the unknown piper played could have been anything from a scale to a known tune of the time.

Rightly or wrongly, Seamus MacNeil that it was a 'mutilation' of a known tune, the original name of the tune now forgotten, but the altered version has survived. I think that it was with reference more to the tunes structure.

Smjprogrammer 04-01-2019 08:46 PM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
If it happened at a different castle then why was there a skeleton found at Duntrune Castle without hands/fingers, or is there no evidence such a skeleton was ever found?

K Sanger 04-02-2019 10:48 AM

Re: Composer of an old Piobaireachd
 
As I pointed out in the article the circumstances of the escape by Colla Ciotach from Dunnyveg still left a force in the castle while the rest of Islay was not fully secured. Therefore the blockading boats would not have wanted to leave their station.

The newspaper report stated that the piper was in the leading escape boat which presumably was captured. Given that the prevailing winds in those parts tend to come from the south-west sailing the captured boat along with the prisoners to Duntroon, a Campbell Castle in the heart of Campbell country was probably the easiest option.

Keith


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