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piper Q 09-20-2017 09:13 AM

Steady pressure and repurposing equipment
 
The group I practice with has a student who has difficulty trying to maintain a steady pressure while playing. As I have the old gauge from a blood pressure cuff rated in mmHg, versus inches of water, I should be able to use it as a indicator of pressure generated by both blowing and squeezing.
and will repurpose it for such.

Has anyone else tried this, and if so has it proven satisfactory in practice?

As for considerations of employment, I'm thinking either a large stopper to set into one of the drone stocks, or a smaller one to use on a drone with the drone reed removed.

I welcome, objective comments and observations you may have.

Thank you,
Quinn

Tom MacKenzie 09-20-2017 09:28 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
Up here I have used a $2 coin placed under the elbow of a student, with the instruction, "Keep the coin under your elbow and don't let it drop". This fixed the problem in his case.

tomm

BaggyMcPipes 09-20-2017 09:41 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
I haven't tried this, but I've got one of these gauges too and plan to do something similar, so I'd like to also see what folks have to say...

McThistle 09-20-2017 10:43 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
"As for considerations of employment, I'm thinking either a large
stopper to set into one of the drone stocks, or a smaller one to
use on a drone with the drone reed removed."

No need to remove the reed.
It will not sound and the pressure in the bag will be the same as
in the drone bore unless it is set for such a low playing pressure
that the tongue is forced shut.

I use my manometer without removing drone reeds.
A stopper with hose plugs into the drone bush.

el gaitero 09-20-2017 11:20 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
Yes....a long small diameter tube plugged into a drone top will give a reading.

You could put a smaller disc of tape over the dial face glass ...leaving just enough to see a bit of the needle pointer. The student needs only to play...and when at the 'right' pressure for the 'right' pleasant sound from the set up.... have someone mark where the arrow is at.

Then going forward...this is the target he must maintain with little/ no deviation to achieve a steady tone and playing technique. ( with that particular chanter reed)

You could visit jori chisolm's website to see the manometer he retails to give you a clear perspective.

Jim Fogelman 09-20-2017 08:37 PM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
I have a manometer that I made out of an old BP gauge.

I used a stock stopper, drilled a hole large enough for the barbed brass pin, put it in, added some latex tubing, and it works great. Got the idea from pipehacker.com.

Here's the link to the actual project: http://pipehacker.com/2014/01/01/top...ressure-gauge/

bob864 09-21-2017 09:09 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
I have one. I used a 10' piece of 1/4" tube and a rubber drone stopper. Drilled a hold and inserted the tube. That's it.

The scale of a blood pressure cuff is a lot larger than we need for bagpipes, so it will only work well for big problems.

Nathaniel 09-21-2017 09:29 AM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment.
 
I like the water manometer. They sell one at the Pipers Dojo and it can be used for steadiness training as well as a visual guide for calibration of reeds.

Andrew Lenz 09-21-2017 03:16 PM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment
 
Here are details on how to make a water manometer along with additional information on reed pressure, etc.:
http://bagpipejourney.com/articles/manometer.shtml

Abdrew

Steve Law 09-30-2017 02:05 PM

Re: Steady pressure and repurposing equipment
 
Always fun to play with stuff like this, for interest's sake....

But even easier, and saving yourself a few bucks in the process is simply to listen to the sound you're making....if the drone tone is steady, the pressure is constant....it doesn't get much simpler than that, and you can play all 3 drones and chanter at the same time...


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