Crack repair, pin or whip? - Page 2

Gr8_Piper · 04-22-2011, 08:05 AM

Have it whipped by someone who is experienced at making such repairs

milwiron · 04-22-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr8_Piper

Have it whipped by someone who is experienced at making such repairs

You're assuming I didn't have my pipes repaired by a pro, I did.
I'm simply asking about the glue used for whipping. Did you have an answer?

Jay Close · 04-22-2011, 09:31 AM

Here is my understanding of the pin vs. whip debate:

When a piece of wood cracks, it cracks at the weakest spot. Pins can close and stabilize a crack but that area, being made stronger, can now promote a crack in the next most vulnerable spot.

Whipping, strengthens the wood in a band around the piece. In effect it eliminates the weak spot(s) that respond to stress by giving way.

Were is my instrument, I'd go for whipping of a really bad crack. A simple fill and glue might be enough.

Johnniez · 01-13-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecraze

Can anyone shed some light on exactly how whipping is done. What kind of material is used for this process?

Go here explains all of it.http://thomaspipeworks.com/page/whipping

colinmaclellan · 01-14-2012, 08:42 AM

I had two pieces on my father's Gavin MacDougall bagpipes whipped by Thomas Doucet. I've held the pieces a foot from more than one person's eyes and they could not tell that anything had been done to them. My wife Jenny plays them now.

I can't recommend Thomas Doucet highly enough.

David · 01-15-2012, 10:29 AM

The best of the whippers do astounding work. It looks simple enough, but what an elegant solution to a nasty problem, for a fine instrument. An esoteric skill that impresses me no end.

Wulls · 01-16-2012, 01:43 AM

I have tried whipping but havn't quite mastered the invisibility aspect

It is a valuable skill in bagpipe repair but one I cannot claim to be experienced in.

Underwood · 03-23-2012, 08:56 PM

After reading reviews in this forum I recently had a set of 'very early' Hendersons refurbished by Thomas Doucet of Thomas Pipeworks. I just got my pipes back and all I can say is.....marvellous. What a wonderful job he did on my pipes which had some 'serious' cracks.....

Cheers

Kevin

Johnniez · 03-24-2012, 02:33 AM

http://www.thomaspipeworks.com/page/whipping

Glenurquhart · 03-26-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnniez

http://www.thomaspipeworks.com/page/whipping

Custodians and scholars like Hugh Cheape and Arnold Myers will agree: if you pipes have historical value or if they are of any specific organological interest dont have them whipped nor pinned unless they were whipped in the past and the old repair is restored as such.

04-22-2011, 08:05 AM	#11
Gr8_Piper Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fallbrook, CA and La Bufadora, Mexico Posts: 1,072	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? Have it whipped by someone who is experienced at making such repairs __________________ "To listen to piobaireachd is to hear the sound of history itself"

04-22-2011, 09:31 AM	#13
Jay Close Forum Gold Medal Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 507	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? Here is my understanding of the pin vs. whip debate: When a piece of wood cracks, it cracks at the weakest spot. Pins can close and stabilize a crack but that area, being made stronger, can now promote a crack in the next most vulnerable spot. Whipping, strengthens the wood in a band around the piece. In effect it eliminates the weak spot(s) that respond to stress by giving way. Were is my instrument, I'd go for whipping of a really bad crack. A simple fill and glue might be enough.

01-14-2012, 08:42 AM	#15
colinmaclellan Forum Silver Medal Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: edinburgh Posts: 468	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? I had two pieces on my father's Gavin MacDougall bagpipes whipped by Thomas Doucet. I've held the pieces a foot from more than one person's eyes and they could not tell that anything had been done to them. My wife Jenny plays them now. I can't recommend Thomas Doucet highly enough. __________________ http://www.pipereeds.com

01-15-2012, 10:29 AM	#16
David Holy smoking keyboard! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Haifa, ISRAEL Posts: 3,369	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? The best of the whippers do astounding work. It looks simple enough, but what an elegant solution to a nasty problem, for a fine instrument. An esoteric skill that impresses me no end. __________________ *AKHLA SABABA a jig BOTTOM-HAND BREAKDOWN a G-D-E exercise that became a jig ROBERT GORDON McNEIL GREEN a moderate tempo 6/8 march

01-16-2012, 01:43 AM	#17
Wulls Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ellon, Scotland Posts: 6,576	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? I have tried whipping but havn't quite mastered the invisibility aspect It is a valuable skill in bagpipe repair but one I cannot claim to be experienced in. __________________ It's not knowing the answers that is important.....It's knowing where to find the answers......

03-23-2012, 08:56 PM	#18
Underwood Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nelson, B.C. Posts: 223	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? After reading reviews in this forum I recently had a set of 'very early' Hendersons refurbished by Thomas Doucet of Thomas Pipeworks. I just got my pipes back and all I can say is.....marvellous. What a wonderful job he did on my pipes which had some 'serious' cracks..... Cheers Kevin

03-24-2012, 02:33 AM	#19
Johnniez Forum Gold Medal Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beamsville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 544	Re: Crack repair, pin or whip? http://www.thomaspipeworks.com/page/whipping