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Old 04-03-2012, 05:57 PM   #11
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Default Re: Little Black Rubber Thingies

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Old 04-03-2012, 08:22 PM   #12
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Default Re: Little Black Rubber Thingies

They are indeed to prevent them from falling out, when the rim is removed and tipped upside down. Mthey don't prevent dust from working their way into them, since dust gets on the lug, then gets threaded into the hole. That one little rubber ring (or plastic on Pearls) won't really stop that.

They aren't necessary if you are careful with them. In fact, when SFU was playing Pearls, they actually took them off, hoping that removing them allowed the drum to resonate more.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:59 AM   #13
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My experience is that I have less thread fowling. YMMV.

Also, not a huge concern here, but still happens, the o-ring helps prevent water from getting down in the threads as well.

Keeping the lugs captive is of minor value IMHO. Unless it is an emergency situation before a performance, I take each lug, and chase the threads through a die, and clean and apply fresh lubrication.
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #14
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Also when re-installing the tension screws place them in the socket, and turn them counter-clockwise with a bit of downward pressure until you hear a click, then turn them clockwise to tighten.

The click means that the threads are aligned.

I got this from Graham Brown who got this from Hugh Cameron.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:05 PM   #15
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Bonnie,

I just got to tinker with four new HTS 800s today. I had to take off the batter hoops to get those darn carry hooks off! There are two sizes of black "O" rings on this model. The larger size prevents the tension bolt inserts from falling out from below the suspension ring when the tension bolt is completely unscrewed. The smaller ones on the tension bolts are designed to hold the bolt in place even if it works loose (bottom head) and are also really handy during top head changes.

I'll have to borrow the words of Randy Jackson of American Idol:

PREMIER IS BACK BABY! AND IN IT TO WIN IT!

p.s. I thought Andante had engineered out the dust???
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:42 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the information. We do not have the luxury of changing out heads more than about once every year or so, so when I change heads, I take out every tension screw and receiving lug, inspect, soak in degreaser, regrease with with lithium grease and put it all back together with a new head. Long process, but our drums are in great shape.
So, all those little O-rings on the tension screws tend to be just a PIA. Over the 8 years we have had our drums, we have lost 3 or 4 of them, and I was just wondering how vital they are to replace. Sounds like I can do without them, but will check out a bulk buy when I am next in a good, old-fasioned hardware store.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:56 AM   #17
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Frankly I've never relied on the O rings for anything. Being from Utah, the home of Morton Thiokol, where the failure of one of their o rings was blamed for a horrible disaster, despite their warnings of sub-freezing launch restrictions, I avoid O rings like the plague.

When I change out heads, I give the tenison lugs a WD40 bath. This always removes any unwanted muck from the threads and I haven't had a double threading problem since I started this practice. Actually I haven't seen double threading since the HTS200 days.

We also used to apply vaseline to the lugs before threading them in, but I've heard this has caused more problems than solved. What are people using now?
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:24 AM   #18
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We also used to apply vaseline to the lugs before threading them in, but I've heard this has caused more problems than solved. What are people using now?
White lithium grease.
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:21 AM   #19
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