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Old 01-20-2018, 08:04 AM   #51
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What is the lowest grade at the world’s ,anyway?
The lowest grade is 4A.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:09 AM   #52
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The lowest grade is 4A.
THx Tom. I thot so...had a couple of students there ( won the title) a few years ago. Was just too lazy to go start digging it out.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:38 AM   #53
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THx Tom. I thot so...had a couple of students there ( won the title) a few years ago. Was just too lazy to go start digging it out.
Not correct. The lowest grade is 4B, and there is also a novice juvenile A and B, and a juvenile A and B. I'm not sure what grades those bands play in when there aren't juvenile events offered (the tops of those grades are VERY good).

To the original topic: I know of at least one band in the Grade 4A final this year that had a set of plastic drones in the circle. I don't know how common it is, but it's not unheard of. If well-set, and managed correctly, plastic drones are perfectly adequate band instruments, at least in the lower grades.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:41 AM   #54
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Not correct. The lowest grade is 4B, and there is also a novice juvenile A and B, and a juvenile A and B. I'm not sure what grades those bands play in when there aren't juvenile events offered (the tops of those grades are VERY good).
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In the olden days when I was competing, Nov Jov was akin to G4 and A good Juvenile could compete in G2
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:32 PM   #55
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I didn't oil the bores of those ABW Dunbars, so there you go.

After 10 minutes of playing the "poly" Dunbars the insides of the drones were soaking wet. After 30 minutes of playing either ABW set they were not.
Probably better to refer to bores in wood pipes as being hydrophobic, which is often achieved through oiling, or just new wood in recently made or rarely played bagpipes. One does not want much, if not any moisture absorbing into your bores; that's just asking for a crack. And unchecked moisture will play havock through swelled hemp, soaked drone reeds, and migrating tuning. Thus, moisture control systems are a good thing in wood and poly pipes.

I cannot comment on your experience without knowing any of the factors. I stand by my own research indicating no difference in condensation between poly pipes and wood pipes under controlled conditions of ~ 35% RH at ~68º F, with multiple repetitions between 30 and 60 minutes. After all...

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