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Old 06-06-2014, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default New bagpipe app

Just thought I should make an important publicity announcement to musicians and pipers…(they are not mutually exclusive for all you wise crackers!)….
You want to know how to start leaning how to play the bagpipes in the simplest way imaginable? Or you are a musician who wants to simply know the bagpipe scale and how it relates to your own instrument? The 'Bagpipe Basics' app is a revolutionary development in bagpipe education that informs and enlightens using graphics, animation, audio and notation. Furthermore, it allows you to interact and learn through games and self testing sections including the enhancement of listening skills. In this way it focuses on the music with the minimum of language input in an entertaining and highly efficient manner.
See www.bagpipe-apps.com and Apple Store for information.
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:39 AM   #2
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First thought on looking at the Introductory Home page was that for sure you should have brought Moderator Chris on board!

Surprised that pipers think of the tonic as low A. I can see why, but might this have been a chance to put this right and show that the tonic can be any note depending on the key of the music. I know it says that the pitch can vary considerably but presumably you are referring to the pitch of A and not the fact that the tonic can be B or D or in theory, any other note.

And finally from the Screenshot, it says the nine note scale is an octave and a whole note below the tonic (so you mean the tonic is HIGH A??) but then you state that the tonic is Low A in the next sentence.

I'm not meaning to nit-pick as it seems a great tool and obviously a huge amount of work has gone into it. Just reporting back on my initial impression, which after all is what often influences whether people go on and buy the product or not. Also, I might be reading it all wrong or missing something--perfectly possible. Or there might be explanation of these things elsewhere which one would only see if they bought it.
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:09 AM   #3
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Default Re: New bagpipe app

If Low A is the Tonic, so, by definition is High A, both tenor dones' A and the Bass drones' A.

However, stating so presupposes that all tunes are in the key of A, either major, pentatonic or mixolydian, a supposition that is not reliable.
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:55 AM   #4
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If Low A is the Tonic, so, by definition is High A, both tenor dones' A and the Bass drones' A.

However, stating so presupposes that all tunes are in the key of A, either major, pentatonic or mixolydian, a supposition that is not reliable.
re the Tonic---yes of course it is, or rather, all A's are. But there again, to talk of the scale being an octave and a note below the tonic sort of implies there's only one and it's High A.

Agree with your second point.

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Old 06-06-2014, 10:25 AM   #5
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re the Tonic---yes of course it is, or rather, all A's are. But there again, to talk of the scale being an octave and a note below the tonic sort of implies there's only one and it's High A.
Read it with an implied comma:

The scale is an octave, and note below the tonic.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:30 AM   #6
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Default Re: New bagpipe app

Thank you for comments on the Bagpipe Basics app.
Yes, we decided to call A the tonic because the commonest scale is called after the tonic and often resolves to it. This is applicable to G as well and limited to other notes on account of incomplete scales...eg. D.
However, we will possibly amend these comments in update to avoid any confusion in future.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:07 AM   #7
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Is the app available on Android, or just Apple products?
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:27 AM   #8
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That canntaireachd tutor might be interesting when it comes out.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:43 PM   #9
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Android version will appear soon.
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:42 AM   #10
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Thank you for comments on the Bagpipe Basics app.
Yes, we decided to call A the tonic because the commonest scale is called after the tonic and often resolves to it. This is applicable to G as well and limited to other notes on account of incomplete scales...eg. D.
However, we will possibly amend these comments in update to avoid any confusion in future.
Thank You for comments
The best reason for calling A the tonic (if you definitely are going to use the word in that context at all) would be that most bagpipe music has A as the tonic note (ie the 'home' note of the scale the tune is in). The word 'tonic' would be best used when referring to the scale or mode or key that a piece of music is in, rather than it being a note on a musical instrument.

Anyway, one point being, that it was that that stopped me in my tracks when looking at the introductory page with the tiny screenshot, and might have stopped me going further, which isn't what you want. Nice to hear it can maybe be tweaked in a revised version later.
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