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Old 09-13-2018, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default Harmony Part for Amazing Grace

I've been looking all over the interweb for the second pipe part to Amazing Grace. I hear it all the time but can't seen to find it.



Anyone point me in the right direction?


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Old 09-13-2018, 05:38 PM   #2
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Default Re: Harmony Part for Amazing Grace

Gord Macdonalds book ‘seconds from the edge ‘ has great 2nds for many tunes. He’s at Island Bagpipes in BC.
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:22 PM   #3
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:45 AM   #4
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Default Re: Harmony Part for Amazing Grace

I wrote a counter-melody (or descant) which I thinks works very well.

Here it is



BTW the OP refers to "the" seconds for Amazing Grace, but there's almost an infinite variety of possible harmony parts for any tune.

My old Pipe Major would always improvise harmony when the band played Amazing Grace- it was never quite the same.

One time, just to show it could be done, he just went up the scale from Low A to High A, and it worked nicely. (It's a matter of when you change notes!)

To me the Holy Grail of harmony parts is when the part has enough melodic interest to stand on its own as a solo melody.

A nice arranging trick is to start with the descant, which the listener perceives as being the melody, then have the original tune join in, which the listener will initially perceive as being a harmony part, until the listener recognizes the tune.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:08 AM   #5
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Default Re: Harmony Part for Amazing Grace

Great thoughts here. Thank you all for the leads and the sheet music ready to try. I had already been fooling around with potential harmonies. I really like the walk-up's and walk-downs used as transition fills.



Regarding great counter melodies, for you non Americans, listen to the Piccolo part in Stars and Stripes Forever. It stands by itself and makes the song so much better.



I know what I'll be doing this weekend.



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Old 09-14-2018, 10:21 AM   #6
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Regarding great counter melodies, for you non Americans, listen to the Piccolo part in Stars and Stripes Forever. It stands by itself and makes the song so much better.



I know what I'll be doing this weekend.



Cheers! Dave
Hey,Dave- that final section of the march is the trio. Typical of marches of that era, there are three melody lines going on- the main theme, the piccolo descant, and a second counter-melody in the low brass.

Back to Amazing Grace- some hymnals have it in four parts, which may be a good place to start.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:13 AM   #7
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Dave,
A great counter melody that fits "Amazing Grace" that I have used is:
"O for A Closer Walk With God". It can be found in Sandy Jones' piping tutor.
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