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Old 08-20-2020, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default Drone Flags

Does your band, or do you personally, have a bass drone flag?

This topic came up when I was relating to some band members the time when I accompanied, as an instructor, a local junior band (Sir James McDonald) to The Worlds a few times. On one of those trips, ScottishPower members were very kind to the junior band, sort of 'adopted' them, and gave them one of their drone flags (the kids didn't know about those and were thrilled). I then explained that our own band has one that was made at least 70 years ago, though it was usually only attached when we were in full dress (no particular reason, other than most of us P/Ms didn't think of it).

So that got me wondering how many bands have (and use) one, as well as how many individual pipers have a flag. If so, under what circumstances do you attach it?
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Old 08-20-2020, 12:45 PM   #2
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I'm with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police pipe band program, and we indeed use pipe "banners".
In Canada it's mostly a military tradition. Its generally reserved for full dress occasions and we have a extensive protocol about its design and use.
I won't go into it here, but if you need more info, shoot me a PM.
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Old 08-20-2020, 08:35 PM   #3
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Greetings to All,

The four regular... civvy pipe bands... in which
I have played... did not... as a band... have any
drone banners.

Some pipers... a small few... did have some... and
of varying types and descriptions... and upon occasion...
would fly them from their bass drone... which never
proved a problem.

Personally... I have one... which is fairly small...
approximately 5 inches on the staff side.... by
8 inches on the horizontal.

It represents... the European Celtic Nations of
Brittany... Wales... Cornwall... Ireland... Scotland...
The Isle of Mann... and ! only fly it from the bass
drone...when ever I am in any of those specific
nations... or in any transcultural Celtic setting.

It was a gift... some long years back... when I was
in one of those nations... and I like it very much... :)

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Old 08-21-2020, 06:43 AM   #4
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I am in a RCAF pipe band. On the base, most of the individual squadrons have a banner, and they are attached for ceremonial (full dress) parades, the appropriate one for a squadron event, all for a base event, with all the front rank pipers having one, and sometimes a second ranker or two as well, depending on the number of pipers in the rank. These are embroidered two sided, and quite heavy, and so far I have avoided having to have one.
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:04 PM   #5
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I am in a RCAF pipe band. On the base, most of the individual squadrons have a banner, and they are attached for ceremonial (full dress) parades, the appropriate one for a squadron event, all for a base event, with all the front rank pipers having one, and sometimes a second ranker or two as well, depending on the number of pipers in the rank. These are embroidered two sided, and quite heavy, and so far I have avoided having to have one.

I m curious...What dictates having one..or not?

Sounds veddy un-military if left up to the individual piper.
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:14 PM   #6
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el gaitero,

Well... with my lot... and what a great
gaggle of mobs we were... (though we
all did... play... rather nicely :)... it was
up to each... to do... or not... on their
own.

(Civvy Street bands, but sharp!!, mind. :)

And as I made mention above... 'twas
never any... "protocol" problem... :)

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el gaitero,

Well... with my lot... and what a great
gaggle of mobs we were... (though we
all did... play... rather nicely ... it was
up to each... to do... or not... on their
own.

(Civvy Street bands, but sharp!!, mind.

And as I made mention above... 'twas
never any... "protocol" problem...

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What say the RCAF...Graham Kerr’s old lot.....
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Old 08-22-2020, 07:24 AM   #8
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Ah, El Gaitero.
First of all, the squadron has to decide to have and pay for a banner. The PM then arranges for the banner to be made with the squadron's insgnia on it. The banners are kept in the band room. If the squadron has a full dress parade, e.g. a change of command parade, the PM has the banner on his bass drone. If there are two squadrons out, the PS carries the second banner. If there is a Wing parade, the PM carries the Wing banner, and the front rank and sometimes second rank pipers are assigned by the PM to carry the squadron banners. This all depends on how many squadrons are on parade and whether the band is formed up in 3, 4, or 5 files. The banners weigh about 5 pounds because of the heavy embroidery, and after 90 minutes in the boiling sun on a parade square, most of us heartily wish the honour had been bestowed on someone else. I try to hide in the back rank.

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Old 08-22-2020, 07:38 AM   #9
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. The banners weigh about 5 pounds because of the heavy embroidery,
😁....is that CAN or US ?
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Ah, El Gaitero.
First of all, the squadron has to decide to have and pay for a banner. The PM then arranges for the banner to be made with the squadron's insgnia on it. The banners are kept in the band room. If the squadron has a full dress parade, e.g. a change of command parade, the PM has the banner on his bass drone. If there are two squadrons out, the PS carries the second banner. If there is a Wing parade, the PM carries the Wing banner, and the front rank and sometimes second rank pipers are assigned by the PM to carry the squadron banners. This all depends on how many squadrons are on parade and whether the band is formed up in 3, 4, or 5 files. The banners weigh about 5 pounds because of the heavy embroidery, and after 90 minutes in the boiling sun on a parade square, most of us heartily wish the honour had been bestowed on someone else. I try to hide in the back rank.
Wow! That's a lot of banners! We have just the one; and it, too, is heavy. It's of heavy silk and embroidered and fringed. It's in the hands of the current P/M; but I've never seen him use it. When I was P/M, I probably used it no more than a dozen times (in 25 years in the role); and, like your band, only when we were in full dress; and not on parade.
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