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Old 12-04-2019, 02:06 AM   #31
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And think...some day, a century or more from now, people will look at pictures of us with similar interest for the days of old.
Well, I'm not sure that they will, at least regarding the clothing of pipers.

Because in Victorian times there was tremendous variety in Highland Dress.

You can see 20 photos of Victorian pipers and each might be wearing a jacket of unique cut, a different style of bonnet, a different style of sporran, a different style of hose, and even different styles of shoes. (For example our modern Ghillies all have four pairs of tabs, but in Victorian times you will see Ghillies with three pair, two pair, even one pair of tabs.)

Today you can see a roomful of men in Highland Dress all wearing identically cut Prince Charlies and identical Ghillies. You can see 20 pipe bands in a row all wearing the same style of sporran, the same Ghillies, the same cut of black Argyll jacket, identical Glengarries.

There's just not much variety of style and cut any more.
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Fantastic pictures, so much variation and flair with the different styles and fashions of the day.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:47 AM   #33
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That is a great collection of pictures Richard! Have you ever considered compiling them into a wee book (or e-book)? I, for one, would pay money for that.

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Old 12-06-2019, 09:57 AM   #34
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This is clearly William Ross, Queen's Piper from the death of Angus Mackay until his own death in 1898. He was a major piping figure, for more than just being Queen Victoria's piper. He was a pipemaker and a major compiler of pipe music.

I take it back. This was not William Ross. This was James Campbell, the Queen's Piper after Ross.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:22 AM   #35
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You've not been on any of the "kilt" pages on facebook then.

Plenty of variety





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Old 12-08-2019, 10:30 AM   #36
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You've not been on any of the "kilt" pages on facebook then.

Plenty of variety
I have been on those pages a bit.

I suppose I was thinking of the mainstream Highland dress one sees in competition.

For sure there are Goth kilts and Punk kilts and Ren Faire kilts, things outside of the mainstream piping community.
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In the first photo of the first post: Another odd feature is that the stone wall behind them appears to actually be a painted set piece. Any idea of when/where that was taken?
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Old 12-19-2019, 05:50 AM   #38
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In the first photo of the first post: Another odd feature is that the stone wall behind them appears to actually be a painted set piece. Any idea of when/where that was taken?
I don't.

It is interesting, the fake "castle" and the paper cutout of the child. We may never know what the story is behind that photo.
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I've not updated this thread with pics for a while, here goes.

A dapper lad; note the two-tassel "youth" sporran. His pipes are beautiful.



Pipers, Perth, 1870. Note the Victorian long hair sporrans in grey-brown hair which served for "day dress" or "outdoor dress" sporrans prior to around WWI. Also note that ordinary shoes rather than ghillie-brogues or buckle-brogues were the most common Highland footwear.



More late 19th century pipers. Note the brown-grey hair sporran with tweed and the white sporran with black Barathea, and the grey civilian spats.



Well-turned-out piper in 1954, evidently piping for Country Dancing. Note the wearing of a sealskin Evening Dress sporran with Day Dress, quite common with pipers. I think his pipes are Lawries.



It's common for pipers to be a bit overdressed compared to the other gents at an event, here is the opposite, men in Black Tie and White Tie but the piper in tweed Day Dress (once again with an Evening Dress sporran; it might be the same man)



There's a story of some sort here



Said to be the City Of Dundee Pipe Band. Happily the fad of pipe bands wearing Montrose jackets dripping with frilly lace was fairly short-lived, peaking around WWII. The Montrose was invented around 1930.

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As always... many... many thanks!! :)




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