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Old 12-27-2019, 07:54 PM   #1
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Default Bagpipes in a silent decline?

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinio...ment-1-5066992

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Old 12-27-2019, 08:33 PM   #2
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Greetings, Andrew, and to All,

Hmm... the title seems to be a bit of a
misnomer... in that it speaks of "decline"
but the article would seem to imply that
the state of the numbers of students is
more than just healthy... in that 6,000
are now enrolled... and many thousands
more would like the chance!! :)

This kind of "decline"... we could all
stand!! :)

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Old 12-27-2019, 09:12 PM   #3
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The article is rather unclear; even a bit confusing. That said, we know that, we who've been around long enough know that interest, influx (outflux) of students, etc., waxes and wanes...I guess "cycles" might be the word.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:26 AM   #4
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The article is rather unclear; even a bit confusing. That said, we know that, we who've been around long enough know that interest, influx (outflux) of students, etc., waxes and wanes...I guess "cycles" might be the word.
I wonder how many bands saw an increase in interest after Braveheart? I did get a kick out of the phrase "silent" decline - not a word I ever associated with the bagpipes.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:34 AM   #5
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I contend the shrinking world has an increased density of Pipers than pre-internet days...and a likely plethora of incremental drummers.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:27 AM   #6
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The article is rather unclear; even a bit confusing. That said, we know that, we who've been around long enough know that interest, influx (outflux) of students, etc., waxes and wanes...I guess "cycles" might be the word.
I think it's more to do with the reduced funding for music in Scottish schools which is being sliced like doner meat. Not everyone (depends on area) can access state funded tuition, meaning potential players don't have the chance to pursue piping/music.
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:48 AM   #7
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There is a marked dichotomy here, between owner-inflators, and music students (no matter how new and basic). The Montgolfier brothers certainly claimed no MacCrimmon inheritance. A gold medalist once wrote something to the effect that he had never seen so many talented young pipers as today, or so many dreadful older ones.

Maybe not so much decline, as both suffering from democratization, becoming more sport than art for many. Yet benefiting from teaching and workshops and longer summer schools, for the good. And more public recitals.
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There is a marked dichotomy here, between owner-inflators, and music students (no matter how new and basic). The Montgolfier brothers certainly claimed no MacCrimmon inheritance. A gold medalist once wrote something to the effect that he had never seen so many talented young pipers as today, or so many dreadful older ones.

Maybe not so much decline, as both suffering from democratization, becoming more sport than art for many. Yet benefiting from teaching and workshops and longer summer schools, for the good. And more public recitals.
Not sure what you're on about? Did you read the article?

https://pipingpress.com/2019/01/24/m...-wake-up-call/
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I think it's more to do with the reduced funding for music in Scottish schools which is being sliced like doner meat. Not everyone (depends on area) can access state funded tuition, meaning potential players don't have the chance to pursue piping/music.
Thanks, Mac. That puts some sense in it. Over here, we have different dynamics, for the most part (although there are some high schools and colleges with pipe bands, though rare on the wider scene).

In our region in the NW US and Western Canada, we've had a number of successful youth bands. Some are still going, others more or less turned into adult bands. There are piping/drumming/etc. "schools", e.g., "CAF Winter School", Piping Hot Summer, etc., though some others have disappeared. Most bands around are self-funded, non-profit groups; and costs for instruments, lessons, schools are individually borne.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:38 PM   #10
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Up in my neck of the woods, we're starting to see a "great contraction." The older generation is retiring or passing away, leaving few or no members in some of the local bands (or none who can play a bit). That's leaving some - but not all - of the groups in distress.
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