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Old 04-14-2017, 07:48 AM   #11
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Default Re: Playing tunes the judges don't know

As a follow up -

A few weeks ago I played a contest. The 2/4 judge didn't know my march and the SR judge didn't know my strathspey. Both judges said I should play tunes that judges know.

Time to find a new march and a new strathspey...
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:46 AM   #12
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As a follow up -

A few weeks ago I played a contest. The 2/4 judge didn't know my march and the SR judge didn't know my strathspey. Both judges said I should play tunes that judges know.

Time to find a new march and a new strathspey...
Jim...Sounds like you're back to your first post of this thread.? Btw..what grade did you play in...what tunes.? Playing venerable known stuff gives a judge a comparative basis against the field of the event.
Playing a back of an envelope tune dashed off by e.g. Gordon Duncan probably won't.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:30 AM   #13
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Both judges said I should play tunes that judges know.
Ugh. It's not your job to second guess someone else's repertoire.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:12 PM   #14
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Ugh. It's not your job to second guess someone else's repertoire



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See 4th post of this thread.....
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:13 AM   #15
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Jim...Sounds like you're back to your first post of this thread.? Btw..what grade did you play in...what tunes.? Playing venerable known stuff gives a judge a comparative basis against the field of the event.
Playing a back of an envelope tune dashed off by e.g. Gordon Duncan probably won't.
Grade 3.

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Old 04-22-2017, 02:09 PM   #16
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IMHO...vs playing an 'unknown'....not if three or six ,etc, equal players ( in the same Grade) play the same 'old' tune....giving the judge the opportunity to identify who plays it the most correctly and flawlessly, in addition to instrument setup...thus the prize winner will rise from the flock.
If I'm interpreting your comment correctly (which I freely admit that I may not be doing), you're saying that the best of several players playing the same tune will beat out a piper playing something out of the ordinary (who may be playing at either the same or even slightly better level). While this may be true in some circumstances, I've known judges to swing the opposite direction.

For instance, at a competition a few years ago, I was bored so I watched the grade 4 slow march competition at one of my local games. The first piper played My Home and the judge was bright eyed and excited to listen to it. The second piper played My Home, and the judge was equally excited. By the 7th piper playing My Home, the judge looked depressed. By the 11th piper playing My Home, the judge looked like he wanted to cut his wrists (most of these pipers had the same instructor).

The last piper played some tune neither I nor the judge had heard of (and definitely didn't play it that well), but took first place. This was an admittedly extreme example, but playing uncommonly-heard tunes can bring fresh life back into the judge and bode quite well for the player.
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SLCPiper,

Based on that example Rufus Harley would win at every competition.

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Based on that example Rufus Harley would win at every competition.

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Only if he played idiomatically correctly on a well set instrument.
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Only if he played idiomatically correctly on a well set instrument.
haha good point.. from what I've heard, I can't guarantee that..


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