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Old 10-31-2017, 04:31 PM   #11
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A follow-up to my 10 year old, being advised from elementary school percussion for orchestra or band.

The percussion teacher said he'd be bored. After all, in elementary school it's about very basic learning and my kid made a very decent showing in grade 4 snare to the extent that we nearly had him move to grade 3. The teacher suggested that if he remained interested, he could pick up orchestra or percussion later without much difficulty.

My kid was kind of pleased as he decided to take up cello for orchestra and keep his drumming for the excellent time he has with the Colorado Youth Pipe Band and events such as Winter Storm!

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Old 11-01-2017, 09:13 PM   #12
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I'm a piper, and as you'd expect, I know a lot of side drummers. I've always admired the work that dedicated drummers put into rudiments, and repetitive practice. We as pipers learn our doublings and birls, our melodies and our tuning - but drummers pound their rudiments. They simply have to - it's essential to their craft. I've dabbled with a set of sticks and pad from time to time. The skill that drummers have amazes me, especially when you watch this piper try to play the side or spin a set of tenor sticks. I know a couple of side drummers that have gone on to play in different type bands. One in particular is known to be a bit of a phenom in his current heavy metal band. I talked to him about it one day, and he attributed most of his success to highland drumming. The fact is, highland drummers "know their stuff", and their skills stand up to the best in the world, in any genre. This band "teacher", mentioned by the OP has a closed mind. His loss.

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Old 11-03-2017, 12:38 PM   #13
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It is discrimination.
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Old 12-20-2017, 10:26 PM   #14
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Our son (Grade 3 drummer), was way beyond the rudimentary snare level in middle school, which allowed the band teacher to use him in all other percussive instruments that hadn't been used in a while. It was great to see him on the timpani, and he drove the bass on one song they played in concert (I play bass in our pipe band) which delighted his teacher to no great end, as most kids want to hide in the background on bass instead of really giving a solid beat.

He opted not to play in the high school band program as there were too many drummers and he'd never get a chance to play much (it was seniority driven), and it was boring to boot.

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Old 01-04-2018, 09:32 AM   #15
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Any true musician has respect for other instruments no matter what their origin or style. The band director you spoke to does not seem like a pleasant person, or a true musician in my opinion.

Drumming in general is so varied and wide a field that I would think a good band director would be willing to learn and accept all styles of drumming.

Every musical style (especially drumming) has its place.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:26 AM   #16
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Quote from the late great Alex Duthart retorting to a heckler back of a hall once long ago, picked the wrong guy to have a 'go' at drummers...

"Listen ma man, music has three fundamental properties, melody, rhythm and harmony, of which rhythm came first, because without it, the melody means nothing"!
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