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Old 01-19-2018, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default Thick-walled rigid tube for prototype SSP chanter

Hi,

I want to make a rough prototype SSP chanter to experiment with double tone holes, for E/Eb and high A/G#. Instead of spending hours boring and turning wooden prototypes, I am wondering if I could use thick walled rigid tubing (likely plastic) for these experiments. If necessary the outside diameter could either be reduced by turning or sanding it or built up with epoxy (or similar) to match the planned outside diameter of the chanter.

Has anyone ever tried anything like this? Also, if anyone knows of a source for suitable tubing (approx 3/16" ID), please let me know.

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Old 01-19-2018, 08:57 PM   #2
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tubing

I've been told this is the same stuff many of the brown drone reeds are made from.

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Old 01-19-2018, 11:39 PM   #3
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tubing

Why not 3d print it.
But if the final goal is wood why not start that way. Surely a rough sanded and epoxied plastic tube is going to give different results.

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Old 01-20-2018, 11:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tubing

Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately I don't have ready access to a 3D printer but I may look into that. I will eventually be making a wood prototype if this works but the truth is that it takes a long time to bore and turn wood and I am likely to mess up several prototypes before I approach anything successful. I really need something quick and dirty to test a few concepts before investing much time in a wood prototype.

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Old 01-20-2018, 12:00 PM   #5
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tubing

I made the first prototype G major chanter out of silicone tubing encased in plastic tubing. It plays great, except for how floppy it is.

I've thought of just buying these pre-bored 3/16" tubes and making cheap smallpipe chanters. Iain Allen makes great reeds for 3/16" bored chanters.

It doesn't take much to make something that works really well. Our reliance on expensive hardwoods and aesthetics is the only reason smallpipes are so expensive.
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Old 01-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #6
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It plays great, except for how floppy it is.

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Might be perfect for border crossings though...
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Old 01-22-2018, 02:21 PM   #7
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tube for prototype SSP chanter

Those 3/16" ID / 3/8" OD tubes look like they should do the trick. The only wrinkle may be longer finger spacing on the bottom hand because the chimney height will be shorter using a cylindrical tube than it would be with a turned chanter with a conical exterior shape. Only a problem for small hands and could be corrected for when/if I ever get to the turned wood prototype stage.

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Old 01-23-2018, 09:37 AM   #8
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Default Re: Thick-walled rigid tube for prototype SSP chanter

It just occurred to me that I could stack various diameters of that Garolite (Phenolic Resin) tubing to taper the outside of a prototype SSP chanter. Kind of the opposite of a David Daye Penny Chanter. Does anyone know what kind of adhesive would work best with Garolite?

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