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Old 09-22-2010, 07:00 AM   #1
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This is annoying...... I heard some Pipers play this Tune on You Tube. I said hey I play that tune, pulled out my Pipes and played the Tune, but for the life of me can't tell you the name. Its a common tune, but what is it?
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:46 AM   #2
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found it in my tunebook collection The Highland Brigade at Magersfonten
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:39 AM   #3
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and? wich collection?
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:46 AM   #4
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Actually... It's Colin's Cattle. Scots Guards Book I, tune number 392, page 222 (depending upon which edition you have) and in Donald MacLeod Book 1, page 24.

The Highland Brigade at Magersfontein, a similar but different tune, is in Cowal Collection Book 5, page 26, and in the Queens Own Highlanders Book, page 40.

It may be (probably is) in other books published after 1966 - the year of my copy of the Bagpipe Music Index.

That was the favorite tune of the guy I have most to thank for how well I play today. His name was George Glass. He was with the Black Watch in India in World War I. He played bass drum in the '60s with a some of the best bands in the Detroit area. When I was just a beginner (just having started on the bagpipes) he introduced me to some really good players and bands and got me into the Chrysler Highlanders, for which he was bass drummer and band manager. My favorite practice to practice is at the nearby cemetery where he and his wife are buried, and I always practice by their graves, and I always start with Colin's Cattle.

There's a terrific recording of the song on which this tune is based on the CD Gaelic Songs of Scotland: Women at Work in the Western Isles. It's called Crodh Chailein.

And I'm completely with you on the "play it but can't remember the name" syndrome. I don't know how many times I've started playing a tune I haven't played in 10s of years and can't for the life of me remember what it is!

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Old 09-22-2010, 09:29 AM   #5
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There's a link below to the tune on Jim McGillivray's site (with harmony), but I remember learning this beautiful song at school, and being delighted when, years later, I opened a book of Children's Songs from Around the World, and there it was again. And yet again at a band practice in Kilsyth, someone gave out the tune music, along with a nice countermelody by Gordon Walker I believe. It's such a simple melody, maybe that's why it's so beautiful. The book of childrens songs was called The Singing Sack and comes with a CD. It's a brilliant collection for anyone looking for material for children, and if I remember correctly, there are several songs which could be used in a traditional/piping context.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:35 AM   #6
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Thats funny about the Brigade and Colins how they both start a to b to cc in the first measure.
Good to know both of these nice tunes
Kenton , nice remembrances on Colins
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