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Old 03-20-2019, 04:28 PM   #11
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Default Re: Tin Whistle to Play With GHB

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An Eb whistle can be tuned to play with GHB.

With a Bb whistle you'll miss a note, but you can still play a lot of tunes
That note being the Low G of the GHB
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:04 AM   #12
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Default Re: Tin Whistle to Play With GHB

The entire repertoire is available on the Eb whistle in the correct key as long as the chanter is not too high ie 466 is good!487 maybe not!
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Old 03-22-2019, 04:19 AM   #13
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Being a whistle player and uilleann piper as well as a Highland piper, I would say

1) use a whistle that uses ordinary whistle fingering, not GHB fingering. A whistle isn't a GHB, isn't a recorder, isn't a Boehm flute, and the numerous attempts to get whistles to work like these various other instruments never work as well as just learning the whistle (which isn't rocket science).

2) about the issue of pitch, ordinary GHB pitch is halfway between Bb and B natural. I would chop a whistle so that it's "happy" at that pitch. I've made a B whistle out of a Generation Bb, and a C# whistle out of a Generation C, and these whistles play great, so it would be a simple matter to make a whistle play well a quartertone high.

3) the main question is where you want the piper's "Low A" to sit on the whistle. As I see it there are three top options:

1) the six-finger note. This would employ a Bb whistle. I think it's the worst option for two reasons: you're not in the whistle's tessitura (wheelhouse, ideal range) and you're missing "Low G".

2) the two-finger note. This would employ an E-flat whistle. This sits nicely in the whistle's tessitura. The problem with this is that the piper's "C" in the whistle's open C#, which doesn't easily lend itself to ornamentation.

3) the three-finger note. This would employ an F whistle. (Hopefully a "mezzo" F, not the tiny Generation screamer.) I feel that this is the ideal. Why? Because the ideal tessitura, the "home" range of the whistle, wood flute, and uilleann chanter is that G-G range (on a D whistle), and tunes in G lend themselves best to ornamentation. Now you would be using crossfingered "C natural" which lends itself much better to ornamentation than the open C#.

You would have to put tape on the "F#" hole to get the GHB's "Low G" however.

If I were to need to play regularly with a GHB that's what I would do without hesitation: chop a mezzo F whistle to make it play a quartertone sharp, and bring the whistle's "F#" (concert A) down to A flat. What I would probably do is take an F whistle head and make a new tube for that purpose.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:16 AM   #14
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Do you have any examples of pipe tunes played on a three-finger note setup, Richard? I'd be curious to hear how it sounds, never having gotten round to trying it myself.
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