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Old 12-19-2010, 06:51 AM   #1
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Default Piob. movement in BMW

I'm doing an arrangement in BMW and have run across a grip-like movement consisting of low A - F - low A gracenotes played from and back to E. Is there any way to get BMW to represent this properly? I can put in the grace notes, but there doesn't seem to be any way to tie them together.

Failing that, do other engraving software packages handle this correctly?

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Old 12-19-2010, 07:43 AM   #2
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I'm doing an arrangement in BMW and have run across a grip-like movement consisting of low A - F - low A gracenotes played from and back to E. Is there any way to get BMW to represent this properly? I can put in the grace notes, but there doesn't seem to be any way to tie them together.

Failing that, do other engraving software packages handle this correctly?

Thanks,

Jon
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:15 AM   #3
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Does Roddy MacLeod have the particular tune on his site? If so, you can buy the bww and that'll tell you what the code is that that embellishment. if you can find out the name of the embellishment, you can likely guess the name of the code (ie odro or podro for the shorthand notation).
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:22 PM   #4
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... low A - F - low A gracenotes played from and back to E.
In xxxxx it's dre. It's probably the same in BMW.

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Old 12-19-2010, 05:37 PM   #5
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In xxxxxx, it's dre. It's probably the same in BMW.
Well, of course it is. Just too obvious I guess. Thanks Ken!
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:57 PM   #6
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Well, of course it is. Just too obvious I guess. Thanks Ken!
Ah, I'm not as much of an idiot as I thought. Just pulled out my venerable Archie Cairns "How-To" manual. Archie calls the movement with the initial E grace note a dre (E-A-F-A). That's how I learned it. BMW calls this movement an edre.

Archie actually calls the exact same 4 note embellishment a dre or an edre, depending on whether it comes from a right hand or left hand melody note.

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Old 12-19-2010, 06:48 PM   #7
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the code is edre

for example:

cadged Cr_8 'c Bl_16 gg LAr_16 dg Bl_8 'b cadged Cr_8 'c LAl_16 edre E_4
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:32 PM   #8
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if you put a 'p' in front of the edre (ie pedre), BWW will render in the shorthand. In fact, you can put the 'p' in front of any of the piob embellishments to achieve this effect.
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