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Old 05-12-2019, 04:45 AM   #1
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Default Trouble dating Lawrie catalogue

I have a nice little collection of vintage Scottish catalogues.

Few of them bear a date, so their date has to be inferred.

A tricky one has proven to be an R G Lawrie catalogue.

Two of the illustrations bear the artist's signature and a date, 1926 and 1930. The overall look of the catalogue is consistent with others I have from the 1930s.

Their address is listed as 38 Renfield Street, Glasgow, which according to Highland Bagpipe Makers they occupied from 1940. Clear enough, eh? The catalogue must be no earlier than 1940.

However, the catalogue states:

BY APPOINTMENT TO HM THE KING

Which King? In Highland Bagpipe Makers there's a 1949 Lawrie advert which says:

BY APPOINTMENT TO THE LATE KING GEORGE V

which implies that the "the King" referred to in the catalogue is George V, and the catalogue must therefore predate George V's death in 1936. (I would think that if Lawrie held a Royal Warrant in 1949 to George VI they wouldn't have stated it the way they did.)

Add to that the fact that the catalogue states that RG Lawrie are "bowling green bowl" and "carpet bowl" makers. Highland Bagpipe Makers states that RG Lawrie were listed as bowling green bowl makers only until 1931.

If anyone has light to shed on this it would be appreciated!

BTW here is one photo from the catalogue



Here's that brooch seen above, far right, along with the rest of the matching fitments



Here's that crossbelt pattern being worn

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Old 05-12-2019, 10:57 AM   #2
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:27 PM   #3
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Old 05-15-2019, 02:40 PM   #4
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Nearly all sources put the R G Lawrie
retail site at 38 Renfield Street in 1940,
but here's one that dates the "New
Store Front" to February 1931.

https://vm.colinwaddell.com/search/?...+Street&page=1



(Scroll down to 14th image on the page)



(The Lawrie works were at a different location.)

"IF" that earlier date is accurate, it would resolve
part of your question -- George V died in 1936.

It's also possible that the picture is incorrectly labeled.

(I also wonder how promptly Lawrie catalogs might have
been replaced, or updated, under wartime conditions)
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:30 AM   #5
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Thanks for that Lloyd, it seems to confirm what I already suspected, that Lawrie's 1931 move to those premises was listed as 32 Renfield at the time of the move but as 38 Renfield beginning in 1940.

I showed the catalogue to an expert in vintage fashion (hair styles, clothing styles, publication styles) and to her the illustrations and overall look put it in the 1920s rather than the 1930s.

So my current best guess is that it's a catalogue that was put together in the 1920s but still being printed into the 1930s, and updated in 1931 to show their new address.
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