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Old 03-04-2017, 08:39 PM   #1
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How long should I wait to start piping after a cardiac angiogram? How long after a stent has been put in? I had this several decades ago but I have forgotten what the cardiologist said and I remember he looked at me funny and had to think about it for a bit. My cardiologist loves that I play the pipes as piping forces collaterals. Any ideas? St. Pat's is coming up and I have requests to play here and there
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: Piping after angiogram

Ron, it strikes me there's probably less danger in asking a cardiologist for piping advice, than there is in asking a bunch of pipers for cardio advice. Are there any Cardiologists on the forum?
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:52 PM   #3
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OK here is what my cardiologist said. I can start piping 24 hours after the proceedure and that I need to pipe a lot to force collateral circulation
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:40 PM   #4
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....and that I need to pipe a lot to force collateral circulation
Surely a cardiologist after our own hearts
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:22 PM   #5
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Ron, it strikes me there's probably less danger in asking a cardiologist for piping advice, than there is in asking a bunch of pipers for cardio advice. Are there any Cardiologists on the forum?
It's probably less dangerous (or controversial at least!) to ask a cardiologist for any sort of opinion on Piping than a piper! If it wasn't would this forum be so successful
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:55 PM   #6
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Well I have more info. I had bypass surgery 25 years ago with 4 grafts and then 4 stents and then 4 more. After the angiogram we found out that all of these have failed BUT I have terrific collateral circulation, forced formation of a lot of little arteries. So I won't have a heart attack. So what is the prescription? LOTS of piping. How much piping? At least two longish piobaireachd 4 times a week or perhaps one War or Peace which goes on forever. I don't get to take a break between tunes in one sitting. I just have to soldier on playing straight through. Piping it seems is keeping me alive. So I have to start increasing the strength of the chanter reed 'till I can play a gut buster reed without passing out or turning purple and drooling on myself. Ain't life fun. Well with this prescription the answer is YES!! I am worrying about my rocket drone reeds which are set for a softer chanter reed. I suppose I need to find other drone reeds which can stand up to a gut buster chanter reed. Any suggestions? I do have lots of other drone reeds including old Wynget reeds.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:00 AM   #7
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I just had some work done. Played the second leg of a little local competition and had trouble the next day. 2 1/2 weeks, 2 angios and 3 stents later, it was well into the time frame needed to almost get ready for the final phase of the competition.

The Cardiologist who did the stents didn't seem to have any concerns about piping so when I'd negotiated with the home front, I was back at it.

Give things enough time so your entry point (wrist or leg) has healed (I was instructed not to driver for 48 hours so used that as off time) and things should be OK. I made it to the final stage, managed the tunes well enough, but lacked a bit of stability. No problems.

There are always dangers in "testimonials" but neither my cardiologist nor internist seemed concerned about piping.

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SNIP...
There are always dangers in "testimonials" but neither my cardiologist nor internist seemed concerned about piping.
My concern with this is that your average cardiologist or internist isnt likely to have any clue how strenuous an instrument the GHB can be to play. I have heard (anecdotally from a piper with hypertension) that your blood pressure can become significantly elevated while playing and stay that way for hours afterwards.

The only better source for this type of info might be a cardiologist piper. Without access to one of those, I would suggest erring on the side of caution.

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Old 03-19-2017, 06:01 PM   #9
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Well both my primary care MD and the cardiologist work in the same building and both asked how much pressure I blow which is about 25 inches of water. They both said 'increase it gradually 'till you get around 30 to 35'. So that is the goal. I went rooting around my storage room today and couldn't find my old Wyngets- rats! My rockets are very precise and will choke at higher pressures.
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