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Old 03-18-2017, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default Wanted: lyrics to "People of this Glen, Awake"

Do any of you know the lyrics (in gaelic or in English) to the piob'd "People (or 'Women') of this glen, Awake!" aka Lord Breadalbane's March?

I'm (very very slowly) writing a piece about Glencoe - and of course the hardest part is finding fresh ground to turn over, and not just repeating John Prebble's work.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:47 AM   #2
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Default Re: Wanted: lyrics to "People of this Glen, Awake"

If you search for "mnathan a' ghlinne seo" you'll find a couple of hits. I'm pretty sure this is the same tune.

Interesting that it's "people of the glen" in English, while "mnathan a ghlinne seo" translates as 'women of this glen"

Hope this helps..
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:23 AM   #3
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Default Re: Wanted: lyrics to "People of this Glen, Awake"

If you are just looking for the words of A Mhnathan a'Ghlinne along with discussion of the various tunes, then go to Alan MacDonald's thesis, pages 164 to 179, online at Ross's Music page.

A much better work for the historical background is 'Glencoe and the end of the Highland War' by Paul Hopkins, (1986). It is though very comprehensive, for which read 'heavy going'.

If you are looking for a 'new' angle then perhaps some sympathy for the position Campbell of Glenlyon was in. There is no evidence he knew what was coming until he received his written orders. As a professional commissioned officer if he had not obeyed them then he would have been tried for disobeying orders and mutiny, the punishment for which was death.

He was therefore between the proverbial rock and a hard and a hard place and it seems likely that what is usually seen as the operation being botched was Glenlyon and his company in the well known military expression doing enough to obey orders but with no great enthusiasm.

There is also another more recent discussion of a peom on the event to be found here
https://virtualgael.wordpress.com/20.../#comment-1230

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Old 03-19-2017, 07:25 AM   #4
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Default Re: Wanted: lyrics to "People of this Glen, Awake"

A Mhnathan a' Ghlinne seo

A mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'Ghlinne seo, 'ghlinne seo
'Mnathan a' ghlinne seo
'S mithich dhuibh éiridh

'S mise rinn 'mhoch-éiridh
'Mhoch-éiridh, 'mhoch-éiridh
'S mise rinn 'mhoch-éiridh
Agaibhs bha feum air

Mharbh iad am buachaille
'M buachaille, 'm buachaille
Mharbh iad am buachaill'
Bha 'cuallach na spréidhe

An crodh air an togail
An crodh air an togail
An crodh air an togail
'S na fir air an reubadh

'S Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
'S Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
'G iomain na spréidhe

A mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'Ghlinne seo, 'ghlinne seo
'Mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'S mithich dhuibh éiridh

BTW if anyone knows where I can find the Gaelic lyrics to the song "If I were as I used to be" by Archibald Stewart, Glen Avon, I'd appreciate it.

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Old 03-19-2017, 08:07 AM   #5
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Default Re: Wanted: lyrics to "People of this Glen, Awake"

Thank you all!

My 'angle' is that I am writing this (as a retired Infantry officer) as an examination of the planning and conduct of the operation itself.

I have already found a certain sympathy for Robert Campbell of GlenLyon - as a heavily-indebted gambler and alcoholic he was an embarrassment and liability to those of his name and therefore a logical candidate for the role - he was entirely 'expendable' - indeed it's not unlikely that many would have been grateful had he managed to get himself killed during the affair.

I imagine that he knew that his commission in Argyll's Regiment of Foot was on sufferance and was his absolute last chance.

By the social standards of the day (and for a long time after) an officer who was not in such a mess could resign his commission as an affair of honour.

That Duncanson and Hamilton (the Company officers commanding the other two columns) had received their orders earlier leads me to believe that GlenLyon was deliberately kept in ignorance until the last.

That they evidently took good care not to arrive until well after the massacre ("This you are in order to put in execution at five of the clock precisely, and by that time or very shortly after it I'll strive to be at you with a stronger party. If I do not come to you at five you are not to tarry for me..." - my italics ) that they predicted the public reaction to the massacre, and shows to me that they were secure enough in their fortunes that they could blatantly 'trip' the operation without actually disobeying their own orders - which were to arrive at seven.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:05 AM   #6
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Interesting that it's "people of the glen" in English, while "mnathan a ghlinne seo" translates as 'women of this glen"..
maybe an insight into just who ran the household thereabouts?
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:22 AM   #7
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A Mhnathan a' Ghlinne seo

A mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'Ghlinne seo, 'ghlinne seo
'Mnathan a' ghlinne seo
'S mithich dhuibh éiridh

'S mise rinn 'mhoch-éiridh
'Mhoch-éiridh, 'mhoch-éiridh
'S mise rinn 'mhoch-éiridh
Agaibhs bha feum air

Mharbh iad am buachaille
'M buachaille, 'm buachaille
Mharbh iad am buachaill'
Bha 'cuallach na spréidhe

An crodh air an togail
An crodh air an togail
An crodh air an togail
'S na fir air an reubadh

'S Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
'S Iain dubh, biorach, dubh
'G iomain na spréidhe

A mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'Ghlinne seo, 'ghlinne seo
'Mhnathan a' ghlinne seo
'S mithich dhuibh éiridh
Thank you!

Could anyone please provide a full translation? - Alan MacDonald's thesis provides only a few lines in translation, and my Gaelic only runs to the span of the Seaforth's regimental toast...
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:41 PM   #8
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Try highlighting the text and running it through Google Translate. It's not a great translation but maybe a start.

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Old 03-19-2017, 05:29 PM   #9
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Lyrics and translation can be found at http://largsgaelic.moonfruit.com > Choir Resources > Tom's Translations > Mhnathan a' Ghlinne Seo

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Thank you, everyone!
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