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Old 02-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #1
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Can anyone show me anything remotely like 'Caoineadh Cu Chulainn' in the Highland tradition?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRkP5...eature=related
I know it's like apples and oranges, which is why I use the term 'remotely.' Basically I'm looking for anything 'Highland' with a depth of expression that evokes emotion the way 'Caoineadh Cu Chulainn' does.

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Old 02-19-2012, 02:49 PM   #2
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Interesting !
Id point you to explore various Piobaireachd Urlars (that'd be the 'theme' portion , the intro before all the extensive variations)

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Allan MacDonald's Lament for the Son?
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:14 PM   #4
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Guess that pretty much answers my question. Maybe some Urlars, other than that stick with the smallpipes. My last teacher was adamant that I'd really enjoy playing Piobaireachd but we never got there. Could be time to try or just focus on 'alternative' pipes.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:58 PM   #5
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Guess that pretty much answers my question. Maybe some Urlars, other than that stick with the smallpipes. My last teacher was adamant that I'd really enjoy playing Piobaireachd but we never got there. Could be time to try or just focus on 'alternative' pipes.
Thanks guys.

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why not consider playing the big pipes....different....and finding your own paths for expression on the instrument.
Bugger what anybody else thinks. The GHB is an alternative pipe too.....as soon as you decide to play them alternatively.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:55 PM   #6
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The only caoine music for GHB that I've ever seen are in T.P. MacGloin's books "The Killasser Ceilidhe" and "The Pipe Music Of The Western People", and I think he wrote most, if not all, of them himself.

That's not to say there aren't other examples of caoine music for GHB out there, I'm just not aware of it if they are.

Seems like a pretty rare genre (if that's the right word).
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:54 PM   #7
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Well, no, since happily the Highlands have not had to endure the whole riverdance thing along with the specially composed schmaltz. Amazing Grace, perhaps?

In all seriousness, try digging into the plethora of traditional slow airs out there. Plenty emotion to be found there.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:26 AM   #8
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Allan Macdonald. CD is called "Dastirum".
Start there.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #9
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Allan Macdonald. CD is called "Dastirum".
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #10
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Caoineadh is the gaelic word for a lament. ("keening" derives from caoine, to lament, to cry out in mourning. In older times in Ireland, groups of women would gather at funerals/wakes and make loud lamentations).

That piece , Caoineadh Chu Chulainn is a modern compostion by Bill Whelan, featured in the show Riverdance. As such, it's not really traditional, but could be considered to be of a traditional style . I haven't heard of any great piobairechd players shutting their drone off as was done for this piece in Riverdance... ( no drones, no regulators, makes the uillean pipes a more macho version of an oboe)
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