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Old 11-13-2018, 04:58 PM   #1
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Default Canning tenor reed squealing

I have two sets of pipes , McCallum AB4 and Naill DN3A. I am using Ryan Canning drone reeds in both sets. I have one tenor drone Reed that insists on squealing while inflating the bag. I've tried this reed in both drones of both pipes. The squealing persists, no matter where it's used. Repositioning the bridle has no measurable effect on the squealing. Once the pipes strike in, the Reed sounds normal, but this squealing at low air pressure is driving me bonkers. Any thoughts from you drone Reed gurus as to what to try next?
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: Canning tenor reed squealing

Need more info. What bag(s), MCS, anything else in the bag that could affect how the reeds behave?

I have found, for example, that flimsier bags tend to be more prone to squealing drones than a sturdier bag.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:56 AM   #3
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Default Re: Canning tenor reed squealing

Which canning drone reeds..?

We had something similar happen with some Ezee's, turns out the reed tongue had snapped under the bridle..! Very difficult to diagnose until I tugged on the tongue (which we never do)..


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Old 11-15-2018, 01:49 PM   #4
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Default Re: Canning tenor reed squealing

Both sets are using the Bannatyne WMC Hybrid medium bag, with a tube/bottle water trap. I think it's important to note that the other tenor reeds in both sets of pipes don't have this problem -- just this one tenor reed. I have placed them side by side and tried to adjust the tongues and bridles to be identical --- with no success on eliminating the squealing. I'm beginning to think I have a bad tongue on this bad reed.

Matthew, these are the original Canning reeds, not the new blue ones.
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Old 11-15-2018, 02:19 PM   #5
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Default Re: Canning tenor reed squealing

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Both sets are using the Bannatyne WMC Hybrid medium bag, with a tube/bottle water trap. I think it's important to note that the other tenor reeds in both sets of pipes don't have this problem -- just this one tenor reed. I have placed them side by side and tried to adjust the tongues and bridles to be identical --- with no success on eliminating the squealing. I'm beginning to think I have a bad tongue on this bad reed.

Matthew, these are the original Canning reeds, not the new blue ones.
Hard to figure,I know, how you got ďthe oneĒ #@@#** bad tongue out of multiple scores made the same day,week etc.
Didnít see if it was asked here...did you try giving the reed a washup inside and out with warm soapy water. Thatís worked for me sometimes. Let dry naturally and give it a go. Amazing what crud might accumulate under a tongue or its edges. ( ie..look down inside your mouthpiece..that same dried brown crud apears under tongues too)
In the case of an actual bad tongue ...Iíve sometimes envisioned these tongue when cut might have a very so slight Ďraisedí residual edge left from the cutting blade ...causing issues. Never tried..but wonder if able to pass some 400 grit wet/dry paper lightly under the held down tongue might soften a residual sharp edge. Or maybe a crisp US$ bill.
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:32 PM   #6
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Default Re: Canning tenor reed squealing

I was going to suggest the same thing, make sure it's clean and then 'clean' the reed bed under the tongue out by holding a dollar bill under it (gently) and press the tongue down flat on to the body. Pull the dollar bill out and repeat a few times. You may just have a bunch of gunk.


Otherwise, does the bad reed have a visually similar tongue elevation to the good ones? That's my only other visual check that I can think of that you haven't mentioned already having done.
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:00 PM   #7
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These things are impossible to diagnose by guessing. Can you post a recording of the issue?
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