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Old 07-29-2016, 07:46 PM   #1
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Default Sticking it to my drone reeds...

I've been silent for a long time but I'm ready to start asking questions and reading up!

First question....is there any new technology to seating a drone read and making it stay put? Superglue ....nope no way never.....nada...not happening.

I have fresh bees wax from a friend that is nice and sticky (he took the wings, legs and other parts out...it's so beautiful), however I still don't have a 100% reliable seat. Maybe that's too much to hope for. I have one piece of hemp from the feed overlaying into the drone hemp to make it easier to "find" should it drop into my Canmore bag.

Thank you for your input, I'd really appreciate it!
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:06 PM   #2
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What kind of reeds? What kind of pipes?
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:07 PM   #3
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What make are your pipes and what reeds are you putting in them?

I have no trouble with simple beeswax as you describe so I can only guess that something is unique about the pipes or reeds.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Sticking it to my drone reeds ...

McCallum pipes with the Kinnaird Carbon Fibres.....and on a side not if you tell me there is better technology in drone reeds be forewarned...I have "upgrade-itis"

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Old 07-29-2016, 08:37 PM   #5
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Default Re: Sticking it to my drone reeds ...

Perhaps you need to ream your reed seats a little? You could also lightly thread them to give grip.

But first, I'd try good old fashioned Thermowaxed yellow hemp. Get some of the really sticky black stuff (Thermowax) and some regular old dry yellow hemp and wax it up and give that a try. If that doesn't do the trick it sounds like your reed seats might be too narrow and not allowing a good seat. If that's the case see my first comment.

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Old 07-29-2016, 08:57 PM   #6
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I don't play McCallums but I do play original Kinnairds so I'm stumped. I make sure the hemp is angled just like the reed seat so it fills the space, but make sure you're getting them in as far as possible.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:37 PM   #7
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Default Re: Sticking it to my drone reeds ...

I've taken hemp off and thrown it out, re-hemped with the black sticky stuff and changed the angle of attack. I've even added the new beeswax to the black hemp. Maybe it hates my E Doublings...

Shawn, how does thermowax differ from beeswax...I wonder if this is the path to follow?
Patrick... I do have a hammer, would that work for getting them tight? In all seriousness I push them in hard with hand pressure....

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Old 07-29-2016, 11:05 PM   #8
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Default Re: Sticking it to my drone reeds ...

I have played Kinnairds with McCallums. I never had a problem. I used waxed hemp and firmly seated them with a strand of hemp running into the tenon as "safety line."

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Old 07-30-2016, 10:20 AM   #9
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Default Re: Sticking it to my drone reeds ...

Debbie, are your pipes ABW or Poly? ( might make a difference as to sticking properties.)


There is a kind of wax fly-tiers use which is bees wax with rosin(i think) in it. I saw something similar called Blond Cobbler's wax for sale on some piping site. It would be stickier than plain bees' wax, but not as smoky-smelling as the black cobbler's wax.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:42 AM   #10
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Debbie, are your pipes ABW or Poly? ( might make a difference as to sticking properties.)


There is a kind of wax fly-tiers use which is bees wax with rosin(i think) in it. I saw something similar called Blond Cobbler's wax for sale on some piping site. It would be stickier than plain bees' wax, but not as smoky-smelling as the black cobbler's wax.
'Johnnie Ring ' wax ( used when installing a new W.C. ) is ultra . Home Depot ..about $2. Unless the pipes are poly ...can't understand why this is an issue unless the seats are not proper. I've posted here prior where to buy a Hall's hand reaming tool as used by the big makers to ream reed seats. If you do this...don't go wild.

BTW...assume you have removed the rubber cones and replaced with stick-ied hemp?

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