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Old 12-10-2012, 06:44 AM   #1
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This about Irish Jacobites:

"During the Forty-five Commander Richard Barry (RN) was sent to Derby with promises of support from his father, James Barry, 4th Earl Barrymore, and Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, but arrived two days after the Young Pretender had left for Scotland." The History of Parliament website.

Richard Barry was a naval officer, and his job was to assist the French in landing 10 000 soldiers in Essex during the rising, which they were unable to do through lack of ships.

The father, James, was previously relieved of the Colonelcy of his Regiment of Foot after the Fifteen.

James Barry, the 4th Earl Barrymore, was an active Jacobite from the end of the 1600s until his death in 1748, aged eighty.

He was questioned for his role in the Forty-five, but escaped prosecution.
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James Barry, Earl Barrymore, with many others, has supported James II by attending the parliament called by him in Dublin when he landed in Ireland in 1715 to reclaim the thrones of England, Scotland and Ireland.

Then James was beaten by William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne.

The Earl's eldest son and heir, Richard, was in England, in case James lost, which was something the landowners did a lot to protect their estates. James II attainted the son, which meant that he would be seen as supporting William and Mary.

It so happened that Charles Edward managed to raise a Highland army, but the plan was for his supporters in the rest of Britain, especially England, where James and Richard Barry were waiting, to come to his aid when the French army landed in Essex, which was a short march to London.

When the Essex landing failed, Edward's supporters in England realised that the plan had failed and Charles Edward had lost.

If the French had had more ships the plan may well have succeeded, as King George was panicking and making plans to escape abroad.

This means that the two Jacobite risings were not an exclusively Scottish thing, and that the Stuarts were seen by many English and Irish lords as the rightful kings of England, Scotland and Ireland. Culloden was the end of a Britain-wide attempt to restore the Stuarts to the thrones of England, Ireland, and Scotland. It was not a Scottish war against England.
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