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Old 08-23-2017, 01:01 PM   #1
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Hello everyone!

I've been flipping through a music book of mine and found some tunes I want to learn, but I've never heard any of them before so I don't know what they sound like. I can read music just fine, but have been having trouble figuring out the note values and beats as they fit into a time signature.

Can anybody help me figure this out?


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Old 08-23-2017, 01:06 PM   #2
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Though it can be a tedious process, you can enter the music into something like CelticPipes, convert to ABC, or use a similar process, to produce something that can be played to give you an audio rendition of the music.
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:07 PM   #3
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Though it can be a tedious process, you can enter the music into something like CelticPipes, convert to ABC, or use a similar process, to produce something that can be played to give you an audio rendition of the music.


That's a good tip. Would you happen to know if CelticPipes is available for Mac? I'm new to all this, and am kind of a Luddite when it comes to this computer stuff.


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Old 08-23-2017, 01:08 PM   #4
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Celtic Pipes works very well with Mac.
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Check out http://www.celticpipes.net/download.html for the Mac OS X version.
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:59 PM   #6
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I can read music just fine, but have been having trouble figuring out the note values and beats as they fit into a time signature.
So your problem is figuring out note values and beats, not not knowing what it sounds like.

http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/

The 3rd, 4th, and 5th PDFs linked on this page tell you everything you need to know about rhythm, and the internet is stuffed full of examples and tutorials and apps to help you learn.
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:14 PM   #7
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Default Re: Help figuring out some tunes?

one thing that really helped me to learn to sight read:

Get a book like scots guards - scan through and randomly select a tune - take a look at the time signature - lets say its a 3/4 now think of a 3/4 you know and sing it or play it slowly and tap feet to beat - for example Green Hills - this will get the 3/4 rhythm in your head then whilst still tapping the same beat play the first bar or two of the tune on your page - you will find it comes really quickly.

You will be surprised how many times you accidentally find a tune that you loved to listen to but never knew what it was called.

best of luck
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:25 PM   #8
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one thing that really helped me to learn to sight read:



Get a book like scots guards - scan through and randomly select a tune - take a look at the time signature - lets say its a 3/4 now think of a 3/4 you know and sing it or play it slowly and tap feet to beat - for example Green Hills - this will get the 3/4 rhythm in your head then whilst still tapping the same beat play the first bar or two of the tune on your page - you will find it comes really quickly.



You will be surprised how many times you accidentally find a tune that you loved to listen to but never knew what it was called.



best of luck


The book I have (which is one of my favorites) is Seaforth Highlanders, so I will definitely implement that technique when reading that one. I think the hardest time signature for me to wrap my head around is 9/8. I can play Battle of the Somme just fine, but only because I have heard it played on albums before and can hear the note values as they apply to the time signatures and individual measures. But playing any other tune in 9/8 has proven very difficult.


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Old 08-23-2017, 05:02 PM   #9
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So your problem is figuring out note values and beats, not not knowing what it sounds like.

http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/

The 3rd, 4th, and 5th PDFs linked on this page tell you everything you need to know about rhythm, and the internet is stuffed full of examples and tutorials and apps to help you learn.


This is a fantastic compilation. Thank you!


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Old 08-23-2017, 06:05 PM   #10
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Celtic Pipes is, indeed, available for Mac. It's pretty great, too. I'd give out my stamp of approval, if I had such a stamp to give...
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