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Old 04-18-2020, 06:55 AM   #1
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Default Flat high A

Not sure this is the right place for this (it is music related) . I was wondering how people feel about the flat highA , I"ve heard and still hear a lot of pipers playing with a flat high A . Your thoughts are welcome . Thanks
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:03 AM   #2
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What do you think? Why?
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:10 AM   #3
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I try to tune mine a few Hz flat. I like the sound and given that I cannot get a Roddy MacLeod vibrato, to me, it gives a pleasant effect against the drones.

But.... I make it only slightly flat
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:56 AM   #4
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no really in love with it , to me flat is flat , just sounds untuned , but I also consider tone and pitch as two separate things .
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:49 AM   #5
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I like it in tune. I like it when it disappears into the drones. A little flat to get some vibrato when Iím feeling cheeky. Just a little flat when Iím being lazy.

Frankly, I think the whole flat high A thing is the result of choosing the lesser of two evils: flat high A or sharp high G.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:58 AM   #6
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I like it in tune. I like it when it disappears into the drones. A little flat to get some vibrato when Iím feeling cheeky. Just a little flat when Iím being lazy.



Frankly, I think the whole flat high A thing is the result of choosing the lesser of two evils: flat high A or sharp high G.


Iíd have said that at one time, but seem to have found a combo that works nicely for me here in dry Denver: Shepherd solo chanter with MacLellan reeds.

Maybe, Iíll try tuning high A non-flat and see if I like it better or not.
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Old 04-18-2020, 09:16 AM   #7
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My comment was in regard to past recordings with ugly flat high As. I do not compromise. If both can’t be in tune, I don’t use that particular reed.

I also think there are those who don’t like the high A to disappear and therefore set it flat so it stands out. But, I do not understand these people.
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Old 04-18-2020, 05:54 PM   #8
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A little flat to get some vibrato
Exactly! That really hit me when I heard some very good pipers play vibrato on their practice chanters only on high A.

Ditto when pipers sing canntaireachd, doing vibrato only on that note.
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Old 04-18-2020, 05:56 PM   #9
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My comment was in regard to past recordings with ugly flat high As. I do not compromise. If both canít be in tune, I donít use that particular reed.

I also think there are those who donít like the high A to disappear and therefore set it flat so it stands out. But, I do not understand these people.
Agreed. In tune and slightly disappearing.
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Old 04-24-2020, 07:24 PM   #10
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I might be misinterpreting semantics and grasping at straws here but to me blatant flatness is always a mistake- imo good 'vibrato' or 'crow' or whatever you wanna call it comes from what you might call 'slightly underblown', too much and you get that raspy obnoxiousness though so it's a thin line in there. Keep in mind though I don't use a tuner or chanter tape so I'm not sure about the exact mathematical relationships between the notes here, I just break in the reed and poke/lick/shave/squeeze/set til it sounds good to me. I have a really nice chanter though so I can get away with it, at least in my own mind haha!
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