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Old 05-04-2020, 07:43 PM   #1
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Default Older MCC2 chanter playing flat?

I have a McCallum MCC2 blackwood chanter which I purchased shortly after they were introduced in 2007. I'm planning to get back into the solos with it after focusing on band for the last 6 years or so and not playing it much.



It's just flat as a pancake. Every reed I've tried in it is running around 470, and that's with reed shoved in and lots of tape on the top hand. (Tried Husk, MacPhee, and Gilmour.) My understanding is that the chanter is designed to run around 476. Do chanters change over time? Have reeds changed in the last few years? I've always been happy with the tone. I just want it to play sharper so I can take some tape off and balance my drone reeds better. I'm wondering if it would help to just get a new MCC2? -- Thanks.
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My experience with a few is they tune right around 472 or 473.
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:10 PM   #3
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Same experience here. I played one for several years and it was usually around 474hz but can be higher. I would suggest something like a G1 reed in it, I think you'd find it resting up around 478hz. FWIW Troy reeds are absolutely brilliant in that chanter.
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Mine is quite happy around 476-478 with a MacPhee - I suspect if it's gone way flat at that age the throat may have closed up a little and asking MacCallum to ream the throat back to size might be helpful.
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I'm wondering if it would help to just get a new MCC2? -- Thanks.
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Old 05-05-2020, 06:00 AM   #6
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I have a similar situation with an ayrfire chanter I bought when they first came out. Canít get above 473 usually no matter what reed. I am considering getting a g1 chanter, but really the sound is pretty good regardless of the pitch, but for competition is seems to be a disadvantage to tune so low.
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Old 05-05-2020, 06:39 AM   #7
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....McCallum MCC2 blackwood chanter which I purchased shortly after they were introduced in 2007.
I just want it to play sharper so I can take some tape off and balance my drone reeds better. I'm wondering if it would help to just get a new MCC2? -- Thanks.
The throat bench spec is 5/32”....you can easily check this with the shaft (not cutting) end of a finger held twist drill bit. If it doesn’t smoothly slide right in ..the throat has closed up a tich. Reverse the bit and carefully straight-on give it a twist or two to bring it back to spec. The throat itself is a short straight ‘tube’. Exactly as a pipemaker would do.

A few wraps of cloth tape on the bit shaft will help give a comfortable grip between the thumb and index fingers.

I’ve found G1 Platinum and McPhee reeds do the job.

If tweaking with the drill bit...ensure to go straight in ...there is, of course, a slight taper at the bottom of the reed seat and at the top end of the chanter bore that you don't want to upset.
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Old 05-05-2020, 07:17 AM   #8
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My MCC2 has always tuned at about Low A = 470 with Macphee reeds. I've had it about 4 years. So I don't think yours has changed over time. Personally I would not risk wrecking a perfectly good chanter by any amateur throat reaming. Of course you may have much deeper pockets than me, or better woodwork skills .
I also tried some old Chesney reeds I have. They were a bit sharper, but not drastically so.


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The throat bench spec is 5/32Ē.

A 5/32" drill shank went through the throat easily.
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In my experience with modifying chanter throats, increasing the ID will flatten high G and high A and sharpen F#. Other than having disturbed the octave, I’m not sure it will change the fundamental pitch of a chanter.

However, most throats are also larger than 5/32, but smaller than 11/64, as best as I can tell, so somewhere between 4.0-4.3 mm.
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