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Old 04-13-2020, 01:24 PM   #1
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Default How is this piper achieving these notes?

Hi all,
I'm new here but loved browsing for years.

I'm just wondering how this piper is achieving what sounds like a 'C Natural' and 'F Natural' in the scale allowing him to play in minor.

Is this just technique by covering half the hole or is this due to the chanter / reed?

Thanks!

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Old 04-13-2020, 01:26 PM   #2
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Default How is this piper achieving these notes?

C Nat and F Nat are just alternate fingering to flatten the note.

Play C (actually C Sharp) raise pinky and place down ring finger.

Boom! C Natural.

The pipes have way more than 9 notes if you have the knowledge and skills to play the rest.


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Old 04-13-2020, 01:30 PM   #3
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Oh thanks, I froze the frame and tried that with my McCallum chanter but it plays almost the same note (just a few cents lower max)

I guess on the Bagpipe chanter it will act differently?
Sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie!

thanks!
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:39 PM   #4
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Oh thanks, I froze the frame and tried that with my McCallum chanter but it plays almost the same note (just a few cents lower max)

I guess on the Bagpipe chanter it will act differently?
Sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie!

thanks!
Yeah, the practice chanter and the pipe chanter are totally different. Practice chanters are very basic, are not typically in tune to any real scale, but work well to help memorize tunes for the big pipes.
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:46 PM   #5
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Yeah, the practice chanter and the pipe chanter are totally different. Practice chanters are very basic, are not typically in tune to any real scale, but work well to help memorize tunes for the big pipes.
Thanks!
So I guess this is chanter specific then, some will do better than others.

I see he is using a G1 Bb Chanter with Platinum Reed. Will need to research more.
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Old 04-13-2020, 04:10 PM   #6
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Thanks!
So I guess this is chanter specific then, some will do better than others.

I see he is using a G1 Bb Chanter with Platinum Reed. Will need to research more.
On a pipe chanter, regardless of make, it should work, as long as you have a reed that you can actually blow. If the reed is too hard for you, the cross fingered notes donít work well.

For c nat, finger x xxx xoxo
For f nat, finger x xox xxxo
For g sharp, try x oxx xxxo, but there are other combos people use for their setup
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:02 PM   #7
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pybBq5uUKIA


Here's the perpetrator himself explaining what's going on.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:04 PM   #8
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Thanks!
So I guess this is chanter specific then, some will do better than others.

I see he is using a G1 Bb Chanter with Platinum Reed. Will need to research more.

He's using a Bb chanter because he's a red hot chili piper. Bb is what they use to blend with the other instruments.

It works on regular and high pitched chanters, Keyed (A, C, D, Bb etc) chanters, smallpipes...


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Old 04-14-2020, 04:34 AM   #9
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Thank you all for the replies!
Very helpful. Would love to be able to practice these notes on a chanter so I didn't have to annoy the neighbours every time I try them haha
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I play tunes with High B and G# quite often sometimes Fnat and C nat "such a
Parcel of Rogues In A Nation", for example. Cross fingering does not work on Practice chanters or most smallpipe chanters because their cylindrical bores only support every other harmonic. (also why the sound an octave lower than a GHB chanter of the same key.) On my GHB and Lowland chanters, these additional notes work © means "pinch"= open thumb hole very slightly and give just a bit more pressure)
=High B: © / xxx/xxoo High G #: o/xxo/xxxo (or o/xxx/xxoo, particularly if you use an alternate High A: o/xxx/xxxo) F Nat x/xox/xoxo C Nat x xxx xoxo
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