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Old 03-29-2019, 09:10 AM   #31
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And again, to reiterate, this test was using only the supplied items (sticks, bag, reeds). In the video, I show step-by-step that the instrument, at least the one I purchased, cannot be made playable without aftermarket items.

I've been messaged I could have spent longer tuning the drones, but in reality, the bag was so awkward I had to stop as it was hurting my lips and teeth both with the downward pressure of the blowpipe. It's not worth injuring myself over this experiment!

The next video will feature a new bag, new drone reeds, and a modified chanter (or even a new chanter if it can't be dremeled into tune), as well as an extended play testing to make sure the pipes don't overly swell and to see if the remain playable.

I may rewrap the joints with polyester thread if I find the anything binding from swelling/excess moisture.

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Old 03-29-2019, 09:14 AM   #32
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Also, while I suspected the pipes could not be made playable, I would have been just as happy if I found them to be playable.

The other Amazon cheap instrument videos (flute, sax) surprised the YouTubers on how good they really were, and since it's been 20+ years since I've dealt seriously with a middle-eastern-made bagpipe, it would have been exciting to have been proven wrong!
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:17 AM   #33
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The next video will future a new bag, new drone reeds, and a modified chanter (or even a new chanter if it can't be dremeled into tune), as well as an extended play testing to make sure the pipes don't overly swell and to see if the remain playable.
You probably were going to do this anyway, but just in case not ... I feel it would be good to list off the equipment you needed to use in order to bring the pipes into playable quality, and a final total all that comes to. Then, and only then will people be able to see how good of a "deal" these pipes are (or are not).

Kind of like travelers thinking a little deeper about using a budget airline ... once they account for booking fees, bag fees, etc ... is their purchase, in the end, still cheaper than another airline that's charging more from the start.

Liking where these vids are going that you've been putting up.

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Old 03-30-2019, 03:49 AM   #34
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Also, while I suspected the pipes could not be made playable, I would have been just as happy if I found them to be playable.

The other Amazon cheap instrument videos (flute, sax) surprised the YouTubers on how good they really were, and since it's been 20+ years since I've dealt seriously with a middle-eastern-made bagpipe, it would have been exciting to have been proven wrong!
I've never seen Highland-style Middle Eastern bagpipes myself. And I live in the Middle East, and have seen many boy scout pipe bands, both Arab, and Christian. Both groups tend to import Pakistani pipes from South Asia. In reality, no Highland-style bagpipes are manufactured in the Middle East.

Anyway, it is just not a musically worthwhile endeavour to fiddle with Pakistani pipes. If a bag leaks, and a chanter was not cut true, and the drones have attached wood curls and absorb water like a dry sponge, what is there to even play around with? Of course one could get lucky! Sometimes the pipe boxes are fitted with brass, and lined with yellow or purple velour or faux silk. Not bad...

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Old 03-30-2019, 12:53 PM   #35
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You probably were going to do this anyway, but just in case not ... I feel it would be good to list off the equipment you needed to use in order to bring the pipes into playable quality, and a final total all that comes to. Then, and only then will people be able to see how good of a "deal" these pipes are (or are not).

Kind of like travelers thinking a little deeper about using a budget airline ... once they account for booking fees, bag fees, etc ... is their purchase, in the end, still cheaper than another airline that's charging more from the start.

Liking where these vids are going that you've been putting up.

Cheers,
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so as to avoid he WOW Airlines of the bagpipe world
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:20 AM   #36
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Even if the name-brand is definitely more expensive, it is nice to fly an airline that uses real Duct Tape and Gorilla Glue, which will hold together better at 10 or 12 thousand meters than any discount off-brands. Such is the same for Highland pipes.

The just-for-fun exercise is fine. It has been done in various forms. Harmless to be sure. However, you'd have better luck attaching a piccolo to a whoopee cushion!
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:44 AM   #37
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However, you'd have better luck attaching a piccolo to a whoopee cushion!






David,Good Morning, Still, from Over Here,

Ah Ha!!

My first good laugh!!... of the day!! :)

Many, many thanks!!

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Old 03-31-2019, 11:48 AM   #38
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Goodness,


i searched the web for videos of top Paki pipe bands and none of them sounded even good....many not even decent...some simply terrible. Several of them were top unit bands according to the titles.



Now if this is the best they can do in the country of origin, what chance

have we of getting a good'un?


here is a link to one of the many I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-0NGSx7QYM


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Old 03-31-2019, 12:43 PM   #39
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David,Good Morning, Still, from Over Here,

Ah Ha!!

My first good laugh!!... of the day!!

Many, many thanks!!

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Laughing is almost the point of life. That and great mountain top views and sharp desert air and a humming set of pipes in the distance.
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:53 PM   #40
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Matt

Watched the video. Congratulations on your fairness, sheer bloody-mindedness for trying them 'as supplied', and for managing to keep a straight face through the whole process.
I particularly liked the 9 o'clock, 12 o'clock, 3 o'clock drone stock configuration.

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