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Old 11-01-2018, 02:28 PM   #1
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I've completely forgotten why there are pigs playing pipes in Melrose, Dumfries and wherever else. Can anyone remind me?
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Old 11-01-2018, 02:45 PM   #2
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:42 AM   #3
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Thank you Matthew!
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:51 AM   #4
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http://leidenmedievalistsblog.nl/art...s-and-bagpipes

As various commentators point out, the bagpipes being played by pigs, donkeys, apes, etc., are not Highland bagpipes, and these depictions also appear on the continent as well. During Medieval times, bagpipes were widespread throughout Europe. The bagpipe during this period was viewed as a "low" instrument, not suitable for being used during worship.

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Old 11-02-2018, 08:55 AM   #5
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Pigs and apes playing bagpipes feature on a lot of European art. Apes playing bagpipes featured in the "masque" court parties of Edward IV from 1551 to 1553, including one where a giant ape playing bagpipes was wheeled into a hall, and it then burst open, piñata style, and a group of 8 pipers dressed as apes emerged. "Soft pipes" and "Loud pipes" were played by the performers.

I also found documentation of a pub in London around this time called "The Ape & Bagpipes".

Animals playing bagpipes were a popular comedy motif in the Tudor era, in the dark days before internet memes.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:35 AM   #6
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Thank you so much for this information. My friend is writing an A-Z of Dumfries and is attracted by Piping Pig for the P entry, which I think would be great. Anybody know where the Dumfries piping pig would have come from, who would have brought it to the town, or who put it on the building in Queensberry Street??? Very specific I know, but just on the off chance anyone might know............
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:33 AM   #7
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Heatherbelle,
I can't answer your questions, but I can point you in a possible direction.
I recall reading an article about piping related carvings and statues in a past, but recent enough copy of Common Stock. A magazine put out by the LBPS twice a year. I bet those folks can supply some of the details. Their nformation seems very well researched.
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Old 11-03-2018, 09:26 AM   #8
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http://leidenmedievalistsblog.nl/art...s-and-bagpipes

As various commentators point out, the bagpipes being played by pigs, donkeys, apes, etc., are not Highland bagpipes, and these depictions also appear on the continent as well. During Medieval times, bagpipes were widespread throughout Europe. The bagpipe during this period was viewed as a "low" instrument, not suitable for being used during worship.

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Unfortunately, some churches ( or rather some clergy and particularly some organists) still view them as such.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:59 AM   #9
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Greetings to All,

In our Past... it was thought by many... and now made
manifest in scientific circles... that the pigs... were the
most intelligent... of all of our barnyard animals (the
beauty of horses notwithstanding :).

And, as we (strange species that we are :) do have our
tendency... to anthropomorphize... damned near every-
thing!!... (one well-known author once pointing out... that
we now live in a society... where automobiles... are now
perceived... to be more alive... than horses(!?)... then
perhaps... just perhaps... this "higher standing"... of the
porcine species... is what gave rise... to their imagined
and projected... embracing... of the pipes. :)

(And of course, all thoughtful beings... are drawn to them. :)

Just a thought...

Regards to All,

Pip01


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Old 11-26-2018, 03:10 AM   #10
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Check out @lorraineelizab6’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/lorraineelizab6/...898729985?s=09

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