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Old 12-16-2018, 06:08 AM   #1
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A fellow who I'm pretty sure is a member here is selling a superb set of early Hendersons. His auction listing has before and after photos. The set was already in very good condition and required only a general cleaning-up.

My question to pipers out there: which do you prefer, before or after?



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Old 12-16-2018, 06:17 AM   #2
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After. If it’s just an oiling, cleanup and wax coat, then you’re now seeing the instrument just as it was when it was made. No history is lost, its simply gotten some long overdue care. Im sure they sound as brilliant as they now appear.

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Old 12-16-2018, 06:35 AM   #3
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After. If it’s just an oiling, cleanup and wax coat,..
Im sure they sound as brilliant as they now look.
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I’d agree. Where’s the sense in appearing with a comparatively disheveled scruffy looking instrument at a ‘dress up’ affair?
Certain Willie, Jack, Gordon,Callum,Angus, Stuart, Yo Yo ,et al don’t.
I won’t either.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:49 AM   #4
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While I do like the look of the restored, were they my set I wouldn’t have bothered to do anything other than clean up the ferrules.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:07 AM   #5
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you’re now seeing the instrument just as it was when it was made.
Yes that's the heart of my question: do you prefer a 100 year old instrument looking just as it was when it was made? Is erasing a century of existence a good thing?
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:25 AM   #6
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Yes that's the heart of my question: do you prefer a 100 year old instrument looking just as it was when it was made? Is erasing a century of existence a good thing?


That, of course, is up to interpretation. Mine is that if one is to argue that “cleaning up” might be erasing history ... well, where does that end? For instance, if a crack begins one of the pipes, should I not have it whipped as soon as possible to ensure that the instrument remains stable and in good working condition? If I get rained on, and the pipes get soaked, should I not oil them and/or reapply wax to the finish. I would think not.

There are several “histories” or lives at play here ... the primary of which is the history and life of the instrument, and that life is determined by the actions (or inactions) of its owners.

The state of the instrument when it was made ... untarnished, clean, oiled, well hemped, good finish to protect the wood ... all of that, from day one, was done to well
ensure that the instrument would survive long enough to be the subject of this discussion.

So accordingly, in my view, the careful restoration done now might hopefully help to ensure the instrument will continue its life onward for yet another 100 years. Should the instrument prematurely meet its demise (or parts of it) due to the inaction of its owners, and thus cease to forge more history, that ... to me ... would be a tragedy.

You’d called this a “superb” set in your initial post ... so I ask ... what makes this set “superb?” Lack of cracks? Straight bores? Intact fittings?

This set has surely been cared after (though less so over the last decade or two) in order to have survived long enough and yet maintain its “superb” status. Id like to see it remain as such.

Anyway, that’s my take.

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Old 12-16-2018, 08:16 AM   #7
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After...a lot of the so called history that is being bandied about is tarnish from cigarette smoke, pollution, rain etc...nothing to fret about.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:33 AM   #8
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Had they been kept up and looked after they would look like picture one anyway!
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Had they been kept up and looked after they would look like picture one anyway!


Precisely. Removal of damage/dirt and preventative maintenance does not remove the prior existence of the instrument itself. Rather, it merely recovers it from the neglect it has suffered so that it may live on and continue to do what it was made for ... make music.
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Yo Yo??? Sorry, no idea who is might be? Fill me in??
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