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Old 11-12-2018, 10:14 AM   #11
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The source who provided the Death
Notice for Dr. Bett adds that...

James Bett was the father of
(Dr.) Patrick Hunter Bett.

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Also of possible interest is a
James Bett who rose to the
rank of Lt.Col (Northumbrian
Fusiliers). Is he relevant to
this discussion?

Is his retirement information
accessible?
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:01 PM   #12
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I have further information, and will
give details if wanted.

James Bett (Father) was a 'Land Agent';
so far, there's nothing, beyond his book
of tunes, revealing his piping interests.

OTOH, there's considerable information
about Dr. P.H. Bett's activities, in his
full obituary.

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(Lt.Col James Bett had, as far as I know
currently, no established relationship with
this family.)
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Old 11-13-2018, 03:45 AM   #13
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Fantastic work Lloyd. I'd be interested to see the obituary, but I don't want to put you to work duplicating Jeannie's research!
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:40 AM   #14
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James Bett (Father) was a 'Land Agent';
so far, there's nothing, beyond his book
of tunes, revealing his piping interests.
Correcting the above, from Post #12, the
author / publisher of the collection of tunes
is far more likely to have been James Bett Jr.,
2 yrs younger brother of Dr. Patrick Bett.
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:42 PM   #15
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Hello again, Calum.

Finally I've viewed an image of the Inverness
Courier
, 21 September, 1894, reporting
on the Northern Meeting.

Oddly, only the names of the 'pibroch' judges,
are listed, with only the briefest mention of the
general piping competitions, and no winners
nor judges listed. It may be that Dr. Bett
(Patrick) was not there, or there may have been
more details in a later edition. (The Prime
Minister's visit to Inverness, at the same time,
took up much of that edition with lists of
'important' visitors, attendees of the Balls, etc.

I'm greatly indebted for the help of Anne
Anderson
(momento-mori.co.uk) for much
of the documentation for the Bett family.

James Bett (Jr) and two of his brothers were
actively involved in judging piping and dancing
at Highland Games in the late 1800's. James
(Jr) was undoubtably the author of the collection
of tunes. Dr. Bett (Patrick) was 'slightly' more
than two years younger than James.

Their father, James Bett (Sr), was a 'land
agent and valuator' living in the Edinburgh
area.
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Old 11-18-2018, 03:21 PM   #16
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Difficult to say. I wonder if the Northern Meeting judges at that time were mainly local gentry; no need to engage some professional whipper-snapper from the Lowlands, though that's pure speculation.



The census records you sent me show Patrick's place of birth as Argyllshire, which would certainly make sense in terms of them receiving a good piping education as youngsters.



You also mentioned that James (Jr) moved to Ceylon in 1900 and seems to have stayed there, dying in 1917.



Patrick was 40 as of the 1901 census, born in 1861, and James was 43 when he took ship to Ceylon in 1900.



James Jr seems to have lived in a few different places; we have mentions of Dull, Logierait, Strathtay; these are all close by. I have a suspicion that Logierait and Strathtay refer to the same property, and Dull is about ten miles further towards Loch Tay (and the eastern edge of modern Argyll & Bute are only some 40 miles beyond Dull).
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:35 PM   #17
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Difficult to say. I wonder if the Northern Meeting judges at that time were mainly local gentry; no need to engage some professional whipper-snapper from the Lowlands, though that's pure speculation.[snipped]


This is the relevant section of the
Inverness Courier. (If I've managed
to insert an image properly). If it
doesn't appear, I'll forward it by email.

And... it seems the image is elsewhere.

The 'pibroch' judges were, accordingly...
Major Grant, Drumbuie
Col Goatwyk, Gard
Mr Gillespie, Moulin
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