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Old 07-28-2019, 12:40 PM   #1
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Default Mini MSR competition. Something I'd like to see.

There are so many nice two parted marches, strathspeys and reels languishing all but unnoticed in our books and archives, save for the occasional dusting off for a medley. It might be a nice addition to solo competitions, especially for the lower grades, to have a mini MSR where the competitor plays the three 2 parted tunes together as a set. A lot of the two parters seem to have more engaging melodies than their finger bending four and six part cousins. Learning to string together the march, strathspey and reel could also help develop musicality for student pipers.
I could be and am willing to be wrong on this idea.
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:05 PM   #2
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This is a great idea!
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:28 PM   #3
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Yes, grade 4 should have abandoned the 4 part march ages ago. It is not necessary and limits those that will graduate to grade 3 where a SR is played.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:00 PM   #4
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There are so many nice two parted marches, strathspeys and reels languishing all but unnoticed in our books and archives, save for the occasional dusting off for a medley. It might be a nice addition to solo competitions, especially for the lower grades, to have a mini MSR where the competitor plays the three 2 parted tunes together as a set. A lot of the two parters seem to have more engaging melodies than their finger bending four and six part cousins. Learning to string together the march, strathspey and reel could also help develop musicality for student pipers.

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I agree with this wholeheartedly. It would allow for more creative freedom in choosing MSR tunes and allow for more challenges as a player. I can think of a dozen combinations off the top of my head.

If they would agree, I would agree!


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Old 07-28-2019, 11:33 PM   #5
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Default Re: Mini MSR competition. Something I'd like to see.

WUSPBA just got rid of their G4 Mini MSR for bands this season. Granted it was 4 parts march, which could be 1x4 parter or 2x2 parters, 2 parts strathspey, and 2 parts reel.

The RSPBA G4A for majors (at least a few years ago) was 4 parts each, with the option of each being 1x4 or 2x2.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:30 AM   #6
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Yes, grade 4 should have abandoned the 4 part march ages ago. It is not necessary and limits those that will graduate to grade 3 where a SR is played.
4A play an MSR in majors
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Old 07-30-2019, 03:45 AM   #7
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4A play an MSR in majors
Iím talking solos as per the OP. (In the USA)
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:15 AM   #8
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Iím talking solos as per the OP. (In the USA)
I think EUSPBA allows 2 two-parted 2/4's for the Grade 4 solo competition (man that's a lot of numbers)...please correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:04 AM   #9
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There are so many nice two parted marches, strathspeys and reels languishing all but unnoticed in our books and archives, save for the occasional dusting off for a medley. It might be a nice addition to solo competitions, especially for the lower grades, to have a mini MSR where the competitor plays the three 2 parted tunes together as a set. A lot of the two parters seem to have more engaging melodies than their finger bending four and six part cousins. Learning to string together the march, strathspey and reel could also help develop musicality for student pipers.
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Nothing to be "wrong" about. I have been fashioning mini MSRs for my own amusement for several decades. The idea is great.

Even great 4-part 2/4s languish in the face of artificially extended marches. 40+ years back, I used to compete with Cowal Highland Gathering, a 4-parter, as my march. Up to senior amateur I usually won, even against Highland Wedding, Lord Alexander Kennedy, and friends. Then I hit the glass ceiling, and looked up and saw a most excellent crop of Canadian pipers who did play 6-parters with superb technique, tuning, and expression.

And at that level, alas, I believe all else being equal, the 6-parter wins. BUT as a youth category, or even an adult beginner category, 2-parters would be fantastic, and potentially more musical.

A worthy idea.

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