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Old 08-10-2019, 11:51 AM   #1
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Default To pinch or not to pinch.....

Hey,


I just recently changed my chanter reed from one that was obviously a little to weak to one that is a little harder than normal. I am trying to break it in relatively quickly. I use a piper's pal reed protector but am wondering what folk's opinions are as to whether to pinch the reed a bit to speed up the process or to leave the thing well enough alone and let it come in on it's own sweet time?



I have heard opinions towards both, but would like some more input.


What do you do and why?
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:57 AM   #2
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What reed maker? Moulded or ridge cut? What h2o strength reed do you like to play...what strength was the one you considered now too weak?
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:05 PM   #3
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Default Re: To pinch or not to pinch.....

A lot of people now use small elastic bands like these.

https://rghardiestore.com/bagpipes/b...r-Reed-Bridles

Although it's far cheaper to buy them as orthodontic elastic/rubber bands.

One of these carefully placed on the reed body (no higher than the 'shoulders') makes the reed easier until it's blown in, then you can remove it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:18 PM   #4
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What reed maker? Moulded or ridge cut? What h2o strength reed do you like to play...what strength was the one you considered now too weak?

My new reed is a Lee & Sons, my old reeds are Husk. They are both ridge cut. I have never tested the actual blowing pressure where I'm comfortable but play what are marketed as Easy/medium reeds. I realize there are differences there between what one maker would call easy/medium and another maker's reed.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:46 PM   #5
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My new reed is a Lee & Sons, my old reeds are Husk. They are both ridge cut. I have never tested the actual blowing pressure where I'm comfortable but play what are marketed as Easy/medium reeds. I realize there are differences there between what one maker would call easy/medium and another maker's reed.
Jack is a proponent of squeezing lightly as needed and/or shaving....shaving vey very lightly...more than once . Don’t over do it. Termite dust.
Starting at the binding and going lightly across the blade width evenly all the way up towards the ridge. Did I say very lightly? Using a very sharp new blade. Somewhat ‘reducing’ the prominence of the ridge.
This guidance is straight from the horse’s mouth.
FYI...Easy-medium generally would be ca 26-28” h2o dry. You might resurrect the too easy reed with a Jori Chisholm reed poker or a Reed Wizard ( Tartantown) You might think it’s too light ( = yes if it easily gurgles under normal pressures when playing low G ) ..but might you be over blowing ? It can be as hard to play a very good sounding Easy reed as it is to play a fencepost gut buster. But it’s so much easier on the testes if controlled.
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:12 PM   #6
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Thank you El,


that is useful information and advice.....softly softly catchy monkey....
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:49 AM   #7
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Default Re: To pinch or not to pinch.....

Nothing wrong with a wee squeeze, just don't throttle the life out of it.
As for scraping, if you are desperate or it is so hard you can't finish a tune then aye, go for it. Micron by micron, evenly on both sides. You can use a scalpel blade or some very fine grit sand paper on the edge of a table.
Otherwise I'd leave it be and work at it.

Tactics depend on your level of struggle.
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Old 08-12-2019, 12:02 AM   #8
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A reed should blow into the right strength in a short period of time. Gone are the old gut buster days of blowing a hard reed until your stamina improved and you pretended the reed blew in. I always blow a reed in with no drones going (more to save the drones than anything else). A wee squeeze, properly done by holding the tips of the blades together should bounce back with quality cane, but it will give you the opportunity to give the reed a good play. Don't squeeze down in the staple and don't touch the blades anymore than you have to.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:52 AM   #9
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Default Re: To pinch or not to pinch.....

A good reed should always be able to take a firm squeeze, until vibrating closer to the desired strength. Then the squeezing can be a little lighter.



If the reed collapses on squeezing, it's no good.


Discard.
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:15 AM   #10
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Default Re: To pinch or not to pinch.....

Great stuff!!


thanks all for the advice. "nothing wrong wi a wee squeeze"


I'm confident that I won't have to do any shaving, but will persist with a squeeze or two and blowing in a bit without the drones going.


Cheers all and happy Worlds week!!
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