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Old 09-02-2017, 08:40 AM   #1
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Default Removing Ivory bushes and caps

How best to do this without damaging the Ivory? From a turn of the century set of henderson reel pipes. I want to replace them with boxwood .thanks
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Old 09-02-2017, 08:48 AM   #2
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Default Re: Removing Ivory bushes and caps

The only way I've ever got any off my pipes, is by accident... Though I'm sure there's a good way to do it...
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:17 AM   #3
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Some pros at one of the older large pipe makers told me immerse the ivory part in very very hot water ....maybe a slight rolling boil.....until the old time adhesive loosens up. Put the item in a heavy duty plastic bag before immersing...only immerse the ivory....might need to use e.g. wire coat hanger to rig a gizmo to suspend it in position. It might take a long while.

What will you do with the parts?...relegate them out of sight to a dark dusty shelf in a box? Shame.

Personally I'd not chance it and leave them alone ....and get another set with eco friendly material.
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Old 09-02-2017, 12:13 PM   #4
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Yes that's what I'd heard, so it's not the water? Rather the temp? I.e. The plastic bag thing.
Yes it's rather a frightening idea!!
Yes put the Ivory on a shelf somewhere!
Thing is I've no cert and I travel a lot. No one ever says anything..... but it's a matter of concern. They are stamped with a date on the macrae hempless tuning pins and obviously genuine , though in fact they are an older set of hendersons that were refitted 1911 .
On my other set of these I had, the Ivory just turned off on 2 of the rings, as the glue had aged or dried or something , but these ones are solid.
Thing is these are my pipes pointless getting or making another set because then these would just sit on the shelf!!
I guess the safest thing is to arrange a cert somehow. Hmm
Any other tricks?
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:39 PM   #5
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Any other tricks?

Paint them to look like boxwood. No joke.

In a decade or so after 'they' come to heir senses and stop bothering us about antique instruments...you can remove the painted finish
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Old 09-02-2017, 05:52 PM   #6
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Nice idea but they go through the X ray machine.........I've decided the best thing to do is get a cert and I've started making enquiries. It should be failrly straight forwards( he says optimistically) thanks anyhow
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Old 09-02-2017, 06:37 PM   #7
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It should be failrly straight forward.....

Btw ...do you the original purchaser sales receipt to bolster your quest?

There is ,I believe, the 50% rule...some gibberish about the quantity of ivory being less than the ' other' content....good luck getting a comfortable answer that a border agent
understands if you travel cross-border.
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Old 09-03-2017, 06:21 AM   #8
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The glue used for these is almost certainly hide glue, and it softens with heat - and it doesn't need to boil, about 60C if I remember rightly.

As for ivory, I'm pretty unsentimental about it, personally. It looks pretty but has no practical function that boxwood or plastic cannot duplicate. I have one chanter with ivory on it and when the day comes I need to take it abroad the ivory will be getting knocked off without a second thought.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:46 AM   #9
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Yes..hide glue...tho I've removed some ferrules that took hours suspended in the hot ...slight rolling...water before it softened . Sometimes there was also a bit of black pitch.
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