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Old 03-19-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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Default The Red Coat

I ran across a reference to this tune in a general book on pipes. The tune was including in a chapter entitled strangely enough "Music for Pleasure," which identified certain tunes that fall somewhere bewtween the "big" and "small" music - apparently Kilberry once referred to these tunes as "middle" music. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Sounds like an attempt to categorize tunes that are just "airs." I fiddled about with the tune, but I couldn't play it properly because the sheet music had no grace nots and there are plenty of repeating notes.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:01 PM   #2
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There WAS a thread on this not too long ago ... Just can't find it!!

Ceol Mor (Mhor) - Heavy - Piobaireached

Ceol Beag - Light music

Ceol Meadhonach - Medium Music

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:21 PM   #3
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The Red Coat is in the following books: Seaforth Highlanders, The Piper's Day, Queen's Own Highlanders.

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Old 03-20-2008, 03:15 AM   #4
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'Ceol Meadhonach' is not a traditional classification, but one invented by Archibald Campbell, it seems - a distinction best forgotten, I think.

'The Red Coat' can be played as a strathspey or a slow air, and I suppose as a march, according to one's fancy. As an 'air', one could play each phrase of four notes with emphasis on the first and last: HIO din hio A, CHE a che VI, etc, a sort of rocking (as in cradle) motion.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:03 AM   #5
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Maitland - thanks for the phrasing, that was not apparent from the sheet music.

Paul - if you have played the three, is there a preferred setting? I am looking for it set as an air rather than a march. I don't have either three books so before I lay out the $$, any guidance would be appreciated.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:28 AM   #6
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I don't know that there is a preferred setting. Those in the QOH and Piper's Day books are the most recent, having been duty tunes in the Queen's Own Highlanders. There are some note differences between the Seaforth setting and the other two. The Seaforth book was reissued a few years ago and is carried by a number of suppliers while the Piper's Day is harder to find and the QOH is out of print.

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:48 AM   #7
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...the next two phrases go 'HIO din HIO in, hinEM BEM'; slightly different emphasis from the first two.
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Another version is Johny cope. are you awakin ayet Revellie in the british army
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If you were to check the Tune Encyclopedia linked at the top of the forum, you'd find better than a half-dozen settings online:
Beat the Red Coats at Culloden (Buail na Bodich a' Culodair) (Cameronian's Rant)
10006OnlineR--The Caledonian Repository of Music Adapted for the Bagpipeswww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coat, The (An Coata Ruadh)
10012OnlineS--A Collection of Quicksteps, Strathspeys, Reels, and Jigs arranged for the Highland Bagpipewww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coat, The
10014OnlineSA--David Glen's Collection of Highland Bagpipe Musicwww.ceolsean.net
-Cameronian Rant, The (Beat the Red Coats at Culloden)
10014OnlineR--David Glen's Collection of Highland Bagpipe Musicwww.ceolsean.net
-Red Roderick's Dun Coat
10014OnlineS--David Glen's Collection of Highland Bagpipe Musicwww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coated Soldier, The
10016OnlineSA--The Edinburgh Collection of Highland Bagpipe Musicwww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coat, The
10020OnlineS--Glen's Collection for the Great Highland Bagpipewww.ceolsean.net
-Red Rory's Short Coat
10021OnlineS--Henderson's Tutor for the Bagpipe and Collection of Pipe Musicwww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coat, The
10031OnlineR--A New and Complete Tutor for the Great Highland Bagpipe by Thomas Glenwww.ceolsean.net
-Red Coat, The
10037OnlineM--William Ross's CollectionThe ones listed in Ceol Sean are available for download.
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