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Old 06-01-2017, 03:15 PM   #51
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So many in piping and other "sports" make dumb comments about females etc and we ate supposed to "let it go" because they're only joking. Right? A joke is a joke...let it go.

Except, doing this...turning a blind eye to blatant sexism, racism and complete unacceptable behaviour puts -everyone- and especially little kids growing up in this environment at risk. It prevents people acknowledging when something is so over the line because it muddies where that line is.
Thank you for your post. You put (in the above quote) what I was trying to say perfectly - that there is behaviour that goes on in the piping world that is unacceptable and we don't see it because we all think we all know where that line is, but some of us don't.

For what it's worth, I know personally of several stories like yours. You're not the only one, as I'm sure you know (and I suspect your private messages will bear that out).
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:20 PM   #52
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Thank you for your post. You put (in the above quote) what I was trying to say perfectly - that there is behaviour that goes on in the piping world that is unacceptable and we don't see it because we all think we all know where that line is, but some of us don't.

For what it's worth, I know personally of several stories like yours. You're not the only one, as I'm sure you know (and I suspect your private messages will bear that out).
Thank you both. There is still so much work left to do. Speaking of it makes it easier for the next generation.
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:15 AM   #53
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the first band I was in, I faced violence - verbal but also physical, including in public or in front of children, from my first lesson. I got kicked out for reporting it. they even made a big show out of kicking me out too. Losers...

Thing is, it stays with you. Several years later, I am still a very anxious player and will probably never enjoy bagpipe like I enjoy sax right now.

I have also seen other stuff, but yeah, like Callum says, there is a lot of unexcusable behaviour out there in the piping world, including in one Grade 1 or 2 band (I can't remember) I know of.
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:10 AM   #54
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... And now... between SweetDrones and TheotherRuth... and
CalumII and Rooklidge... I would pray that there is some silent
and very deep-reaching self-reflection going on within many of us...

For it is we... who are here... who must help the world become a
better... and a safer place... for those who are also here... and
who shall come after...

... Stand up!! ... Step in!!... Speak!!... and uphold what is Right!!
... and equally condemn!!... what is so obviously... Wrong!!

"If you're not part of the solution... you are part of the problem."

Let us aid one another, and ourselves, to better Life, and Music.


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