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Old 01-14-2019, 07:39 AM   #1
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Default Sharpness War

I know the subject of ever increasing chanter pitch comes up from time to time, and this video showed up on my YouTube suggestions.

It's not about piping/pipe band tuning, but it is about how pitch was increasing in the classical orchestral world and thought people here might find it interesting to see that we pipers/the pipe band world are not alone in pitch creep.

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Old 01-14-2019, 09:18 AM   #2
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Just more evidence that we are all going to the dogs....
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:18 AM   #3
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Thank you!! Marvelous vid!!

Wonderful art!! Wonderful education!!

A "Must See"... for all..... :)

Again, many thanks!!, and...Regards,


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Old 01-15-2019, 07:41 AM   #4
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But the 19th century British pitch was not A=439 but A=452, called Old Philharmonic Pitch.

It's why old flutes saxes etc play so sharp, unless marked "LP" (low pitch) which is A=440.

Our modern B flat=480 is very close to A=452, meaning that in the 1990s Pipe Bands finally rose to the pitch that English orchestras were playing at a century earlier.

But yes clarinets are commonly offered today at A=440 and A=442 due to so many orchestras playing higher than 440.
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