Welcome to
the forums at bobdunsire.com
bobdunsire.com forums bobdunsire.com forums
You can reset your password by going here. Be sure to try your current email and any email addresses you may have had in the past.
Otherwise please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of the forums. In order to help you, please provide the following info: Your Display Name from the old forum and any possible email addresses you would have used before. Without that info we cannot locate your account.


Go Back   Bob Dunsire Bagpipe Forums > General Discussion > Webmaster & Software
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Webmaster & Software Piping site related, piping music related

Platinum Sponsors
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-11-2016, 09:18 PM   #1
Michael Kazmierski Dunn
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: College: Alma, Michigan, USA / Home: Rockford, Michigan, USA
Posts: 193
Default UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Hello piping gang,
Alright, so I have a Technopipe, and I love it, because I'm just an electronic bagpipe lover like some of you. I got it for Christmas in 2006 when I was in fifth grade. I originally wanted a Deger for its (better) tuning, but had to settle for the Technopipes. Many years have gone by and there is now the Iphone and a big gamut of apps that allow you to play the pipes and whatnot. I have a question. Or several, depends how you look at it. First of all, I downloaded the U Piper Iphone app last Christmas (the end of 2014). I have an IPhone 6, and it uses what I believe is called a Lightning cable to charge it. Understandably the Technopipes need to be connected to MIDI in order for this to work with UPiper, I do have the cable (I should say my Dad does). Do any of you people know if there is a special cord that goes from Lightning to MIDI so that the MIDI cable that came with the Tecnopipes could plug into that? This would be appreciated. Part of reason why I'm wondering about this, the UPiper app, I am dearly afraid to say so, has a better-tuned chanter than the Technopipes (I have perfect pitch, I can definitely hear it myself, no offense to Fagerstrom). In addition, my 20th birthday is coming up on the 23rd. (in March, If you are reading this another month). Your comments are appreciated. Thanks so much

Michael
PS. "Why are you posting this late?" Well, hey, it's the weekend. Considering that I'm in college, why not stay up for the weekend when you have literally nothing else to do on Saturday, without a roommate. Also, if you feel my words were a bit out-of-place, I am sorry about that. Finally I have to confess that I am unfamiliar with how the Trading post works, in case I should buy something from you guys (the cable for example), so if this does happen, can one of you kindly assist me with that? I'd appreciate the help.
__________________
My Youtube channel (continually being updated):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZo...4sTQAki4lGJLyw
Procrastinating is like smoking. Once you start, it's very difficult to stop. (I don't smoke, but I often procrastinated in school and it was very hard to stop).
Michael Kazmierski Dunn is offline   Reply With Quote
Gold Sponsor
Old 03-14-2016, 12:20 AM   #2
736dave
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 204
Send a message via ICQ to 736dave Send a message via Yahoo to 736dave
Default UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

I did exactly this by with the iphone 4. The sound was better, as you'd hope, but I found I didn't use it often enough to justify the cost. Too many cables and settings to fiddle with. If I just want to practice, technopipes and (good) earbuds do the job. If I want to sound good, I spin up the real GHB. Having said that, the adapter I used was called an iRigMidi

Last edited by 736dave; 03-14-2016 at 12:33 AM.
736dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 02:17 AM   #3
olypiper
Holy smoking keyboard!
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,191
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

I use the iRig MIDI with an iPod 4th gen. Looking at the iRig website, they have a MIDI 2 device that has a cable for the iPhone 6. That is what I would try.
__________________
Stewart Nevling
olypiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 06:42 PM   #4
Michael Kazmierski Dunn
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: College: Alma, Michigan, USA / Home: Rockford, Michigan, USA
Posts: 193
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Thank you Dave and Stuart for your replies. Stuart this is exactly what I'm looking for. Now my Dad needs to know what this thing is because I talked to him and he said he'll get it for me, so if you don't mind giving me the Url for it that would be appreciated. Dave, I know what you mean when you say you'd get your Ghb out. But the deal is, I'm at college (specifically Alma) and they won't allow me to play pipes - not even practice chanter - in the dorm. Yes, Technopipes, but again the B and F are too out of tune for my ears. And when it's frigid weather? No way taking that risk going to the (ridiculously distant) music building to practice Ghb. If you thought the same as I did, the Lightning jack I was talking about is similar in appearance to a Mini-Usb. Not the long plug as used on the Iphone 4s which I had before (it was an upgrade to the 6s). Thanks for suggesting that anyway Dave. Again thanks, Michael
__________________
My Youtube channel (continually being updated):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZo...4sTQAki4lGJLyw
Procrastinating is like smoking. Once you start, it's very difficult to stop. (I don't smoke, but I often procrastinated in school and it was very hard to stop).
Michael Kazmierski Dunn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 07:27 PM   #5
olypiper
Holy smoking keyboard!
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,191
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Kazmierski Dunn View Post
if you don't mind giving me the Url for it that would be appreciated.
Here you go Michael!
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmidi2/
__________________
Stewart Nevling
olypiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 08:00 PM   #6
Ron Teague
Holy smoking keyboard!
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

I've got one of these for the Ipad and the usb one for my computer. Both work well IF I can remember to put the technopipe into MIDI mode which I often forget to do. When this happens I cuss and blame the technopipe or the computer or Ipad or the weather or sunspots or pixies. It is NEVER my fault--until it is--which it always is-blast it.
__________________
Ron Teague

The Cheesy Piobaireachd Player
Ron Teague is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 09:11 PM   #7
Michael Kazmierski Dunn
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: College: Alma, Michigan, USA / Home: Rockford, Michigan, USA
Posts: 193
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Thanks Stuart. I just forwarded the link to my Dad, and when I do get this thing I'll post the results. Meanwhile, does anyone know if Mr. Eskin's piping apps support Midi in the same way as UPiper? Studiopiper is totally screenreader-unfriendly and I like carrying a portable phone around to which I can plug in a Midi device from the Technopipe. Also, I have samples of drone and chanter notes I made myself, each 1 second long and at dead-on 480 for Highland pipes, 440 for Border- and Small-pipes. They're sampled in a way nobody has done before (maybe) but I would say this is best left for another time as it's an uber long story / process. If you are interested, I can upload the samples in a Zip file on Dropbox. Not sure if Eskin can add these to his samples once he has them, but we'll see how they turn out.
__________________
My Youtube channel (continually being updated):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZo...4sTQAki4lGJLyw
Procrastinating is like smoking. Once you start, it's very difficult to stop. (I don't smoke, but I often procrastinated in school and it was very hard to stop).
Michael Kazmierski Dunn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 03:24 AM   #8
tenthpiper
Forum Silver Medal
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ireland / Spain
Posts: 478
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Out of tune in relation to what? It does say its +- 3 hz so you would have to tune it to be in tune with another technopipe for example or a set of pipes .
Peterson do the best tuner app by far( 10x more accurate than the competition ) with the world pack.
__________________
Beginners Mind, Zen Mind, No Mind.
tenthpiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 04:59 AM   #9
bob864
Holy smoking keyboard!
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 9,291
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Midi just sends note numbers anyway, so it will be as in tune as your software makes it.

Here's a link to a number of iOS midi interfaces. I'd get one that has lightning and USB so you can connect it to a computer too.

http://www.sweetwater.com/c1059--iPa...IDI_Interfaces
__________________
bob864 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2016, 06:34 AM   #10
Michael Kazmierski Dunn
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: College: Alma, Michigan, USA / Home: Rockford, Michigan, USA
Posts: 193
Default Re: UPiper on the IPhone and Technopipes

Tenthpiper, I wasn't clear. First of all, I'm blind, and you probably are not aware of the fact that most (not all, most) blind people - including me - have perfect pitch. And tuners don't talk, so why, given blindness, use one? Totally visual stuff and unfeelable too. On the Technopipe itself, with no Midi connected, the B is slightly flat as it beats with the drones and it theoretically shouldn't do that, and the F is way sharp. Essentially they are tuned to equal temperament on the Technopipe, rather than just-intonation, which is the sole reason for my question about UPiper. Maybe not just-intonation, whatever they call that Harmonic Tuning temperament. The B and F on a Deger are both tuned, which is why I had been interested in Deger since 4th grade, but according to my mom, customer service is better than tuning - what? She must be tone-deaf, but I can see where she's coming from, what if you have a problem with it you can just contact the maker. Also, on the Irig, which port does the cable go, in, out or through? Just afraid to damage the circuitry on the Technopipe, heard that the Irig has three ports. My Dad just ordered it from Sweetwater and he'll drop it by my dorm this coming weekend. Few of my piping friends here at Alma own a Technopipe so I can't wait to show them. Even though she's not a piper I think my girlfriend Deborah will notice a difference for the better in the sound produced. Now before I leave this post I have a very, very important blindness-related question. We use Voiceover for our Iphones, because touchscreen on its own is just trouble, for lack of a better word. If you touch a spot on the screen with Voiceover active, it'll just say it, so you double-tap with Voiceover to do the same accomplishment as a simple touch for you sighted folks. Anyone know if Upiper is compatible with Voiceover? I rarely if ever used it before, so using the Irig with it will be one of my first times. Nor did I think of getting the app last Christmas, it was Deborah that recommended it for me because she knows I'm a piper. And she and I (as well as my blind twin sister) use the Iphone with Voiceover. I've tried Eskin's apps and, sorry to say, they don't work with Voiceover because you simply can't touch unless it's turned off, but then again you don't know where you're touching if you're blind, hence me asking if Eskin's piping apps support Midi like Upiper does. Sure, they have a wonderful sound on their own too, but for accessibility... Alright, thanks Michael
__________________
My Youtube channel (continually being updated):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZo...4sTQAki4lGJLyw
Procrastinating is like smoking. Once you start, it's very difficult to stop. (I don't smoke, but I often procrastinated in school and it was very hard to stop).
Michael Kazmierski Dunn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Silver Sponsor

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:30 AM.