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Old 10-03-2017, 06:29 PM   #1
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Default Shepherd S/1 GHB - what drone reeds?

Hi all, I've got a set of late 80s Shepherd S/1s that I'm currently blowing with balance tone reeds. I like the sound of the balance tone but I'm considering trying Selbies, I'm hoping to get just a little more volume out of them but not too much (they sound great indoors but wanting a happy medium for outdoor also). Like I said, I'm leaning toward selbies but seeing what everyone else might consider. Thanks

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Old 10-04-2017, 09:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: Shepherd S/1 reeds

My student has a set of Shepherds, and recently put in a set of Kinnaird Evolution reeds ... significant boost to the volume and sound, which we both really like. Ez-drone is also not to be over-looked.

We needed to bore out the reed seats though, which was a bit of a chore. Used the same reamer that one can buy for expanding the blowpipe seat to accommodate a Little Mac valve.

Consider cane reeds as well. They can be a little more finicky, but once you get them set ... as long as you're playing consistently, they'll serve you well, and the sound really can't be beat.

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Old 10-04-2017, 08:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Shepherd S/1 GHB - what drone reeds?

I played a set of Shepherd pipes for a few years and I second the Kinnaird reeds although I used the original and not the Evolution. I think that the large carbon fiber tongue helps give a boost to the small bore bass drone.

The reeds that I tried were Ez's with an inverted bass, Nova-Cane, Henderson Harmonic Deluxe, and to me the best sounding was the original Kinnairds.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:12 AM   #4
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I played a set of Shepherd pipes for a few years and I second the Kinnaird reeds although I used the original and not the Evolution. I think that the large carbon fiber tongue helps give a boost to the small bore bass drone.



The reeds that I tried were Ez's with an inverted bass, Nova-Cane, Henderson Harmonic Deluxe, and to me the best sounding was the original Kinnairds.

Thanks David
Do you recall having to bore out the reeds seats as Pppiper did?


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Old 10-05-2017, 11:49 AM   #5
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Default Re: Shepherd S/1 GHB - what drone reeds?

A guy I was teaching had bought a set of nice vintage big name pipes ...silver/ivory....late 50ís I think...the tenor reed seats had never been reamed ..so they were 8mm and straight. When I looked I then understood why he kept saying his syn reed wouldnít fit or kept falling out.

Iíve seen brand new pipes from another big maker sometimes arrive with hardly any reed seat.

I fix the issue using a Hallís 3-12mm tapered hand reamer. This is ,my understanding, the one pipe makers use to ream reed seats. $35...Ive used it many times. I got it from a mid west company at least 10 yrs ago ...itís probably available from many tool supply houses...eg Grainger.

Not sure if the reamer for lil Mac valves is too broad...big.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:01 PM   #6
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Not sure if the reamer for lil Mac valves is too broad...big.
Might be ... not talking much reaming though ... about 5-9 quarter turns or so, and that was enough to allow those Kinnaird reeds to get in there nice and snug.

Beforehand, I think the only way those things would stay in would have been super glue. I'd NEVER seen such issues keeping reeds in their seats. Basically, the taper of the seat just wasn't wide enough.

Different strokes, different folks. Seemed to work well for my student. In any case though, he and I were very happy with the sound of the Kinnairds in the Shepherds (once we got them to stay in). His drones really seemed on the quiet side, and I could see he looked a bit dismayed at this (particularly in comparison to my Hendersons).

His eyes widened once we had the Kinnairds in. Some people think the volume from them is a bit much, but for him at least, it was a welcome change. I'd told him that it's surprising how much reed choice can reinvent the instrument ... he learned that lesson fully that day.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:08 PM   #7
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Thanks David
Do you recall having to bore out the reeds seats as Pppiper did?
I didn't have t open up the reed seats. The drones were made around 2005.
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Thanks for the insight everyone


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