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Old 07-16-2020, 04:16 PM   #1
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Hey all, does anyone know the history of the march the Battle of Waterloo? Who wrote it, where it was published that sort of thing, or when it was first composed?

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Old 07-16-2020, 04:22 PM   #2
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The first part is I think traditional, or perhaps "unknown" might be a better description. The second part is due to Donald MacLeod, I believe, who I think picked it up from a fiddler?


As far as I know no other version exists predating his publication of it.
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Old 07-16-2020, 06:31 PM   #3
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Interesting, thanks!
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Looking at O'Neil's Music of Ireland it is the same tune as "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine".
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Looking at O'Neil's Music of Ireland it is the same tune as "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine".
It's pretty confusing, for I've seen at least a dozen different settings--well, tunes, actually--for "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine"...some of which appear similar to, or essentially the same as, "The Battle of Waterloo"; some totally a different tune.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:45 PM   #6
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As with so much else... in our particular
bowl of musical stew... it's a mish-mash...
a gaggle... a storm of confusions... and
layers of... contradictions!! :)

Oh well... Back to working on that birl... :)








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The first part certainly has strong similarities to the tune variously known as Bonaparte Crossing The Alps/Bonaparte’s March/Boney's March, which in turn has similarities to the possibly older English fiddle tune The Old Cuckoo/Old Cuckoo's Nest.
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The first part certainly has strong similarities to the tune variously known as Bonaparte Crossing The Alps/Bonaparte’s March/Boney's March, which in turn has similarities to the possibly older English fiddle tune The Old Cuckoo/Old Cuckoo's Nest.
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:50 PM   #9
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Bonaparte Crossing The Rhine has both parts of the Battle Of Waterloo.

There's a different tune called The Braes Of Dunvegan which sometimes is mistakenly identified as Bonaparte Crossing The Rhine. It's an unrelated tune.

About Bonaparte Crossing The Rhine/The Battle Of Waterloo they're obviously related to the old Hymn-tune KINGSFOLD which also has been the vehicle for at least one Christmas Carol, the Irish song The Star Of The County Down, and various orchestral works.
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