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Old 03-30-2020, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default Leumluath movement

I realize that there is a piobaireachd section on this site but doesn't appear to widely used. So not to offend anyone I have a question on this movement when played on D (as in The Lament For The Children). In the Society book, between the two low g's there is an E grace note. I was told that this was a misprint. However, in David Glen's book, Ross's book and Jimmy MacIntosh's book there is an E grace note between the two low g's. Logan's tutor and Rhytmic Finger Works show a standard grip on D (B grace note). What is the correct way of playing this movement or are both acceptable? Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-30-2020, 04:28 PM   #2
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Donald Lindsay's book "Canntaireachd" has the scale of leumluaths, starting from low a, as hinbare, hiobare, hobare, *harode*, chebare, hebare, chibare, Ibare. The fact that the leumluath from D is harode and not harede suggests to me that it's G-B-G, not G-E-G. The PS collection records both harode for G-B-G and habare for G-D-G as leumluaths from D.

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Sorry, I just realized you're talking about an adeda, which starts and ends on D with G-E-G between. That's a thing, just not a leumluath.

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Old 03-31-2020, 05:51 AM   #4
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The adeda/ademda is a different movement to the grip/leamluath, and to my mind it makes sense to think of it as being the same "thing" or category as the edre or dare, but on a D.



If you have Jim's Piobaireachd Fingerwork, it's in there on page 90.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:07 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input. If you look at the PS on page 99 and check out the third abbreviation, that's the one that confused me- never encountered it.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:42 AM   #6
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Yes, it's definitely one of the rarest bits of "standard" fingerwork out there.
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It also appears in Var. 1 of The King's Taxes and Lament For Donald Ban MacCrimmon.

In light music, I think it's in the last part of The Finger Control, a hornpipe in John Wilson Book 3.
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Thanks for the help. Found the exercise in Jim McGillivray's book.
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