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Old 08-08-2016, 12:06 AM   #1
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Default A fart in the fog [Competing with a Bb chanter]

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Is there anyone out there playing (& winning or at least competing) with a Bb ("ensemble"/"orchestral") chanter in solo comps? McCallum, shepherd or RJM? Or do the judges only hear you if playing at 468hz and above?

Just researching options.

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Old 08-08-2016, 04:40 AM   #2
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I have seen a professional level competitor playing a chanter with a pumpkin yellow sole. I'd imagine it was pitching right around Bb. It was a piobaireachd contest.
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Old 08-08-2016, 06:08 AM   #3
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Great name for a tune. How does it go? A lot of the chanters from the 70's or before were actually playing B flat instead of A. Many pipers are still playing vintage pipes so are competing in Bb.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:26 AM   #4
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Great name for a tune. How does it go?

I couldn't agree more
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Old 08-08-2016, 11:08 AM   #5
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There's been a lot of back and forth over the years here at Dunsire on playing at 466hz. I played and once or twice competed with several different types of Bb chanters, think I still have a MacLellan Bb and a MacCallum Bb chanter (sold a Shepard Bb but owned one of those as well).

I think if your playing is steady then it won't/shouldn't matter what pitch you are at with things locked in.
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Old 08-08-2016, 12:02 PM   #6
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A lot of the chanters from the 70's or before were actually playing B flat instead of A. Many pipers are still playing vintage pipes so are competing in Bb.
What I see/hear at comps are old drones with new chanters. No low pitches (Bb) to be heard.
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:23 PM   #7
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I couldn't agree more

I think you should compose it! It would be a grand song to learn when I come back to lessons in the Autumn!
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:36 PM   #8
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....playing a chanter with a pumpkin yellow sole. I'd imagine it was pitching right around Bb. ...
I play a 1970s Naill and a 1960s Hardie, both with orange/yellow soles, and both of which pitch at 475 or so. Well below current levels but nowhere near Bb 466.
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:59 PM   #9
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Hey,
Is there anyone out there .....at least competing) with a Bb chanter in solo comps?
Played pibroch for Andrew Wright in Portland last month with an old Bb Sinclair. I mentioned it before I played and he said with a grin "That's alright, I'm a low pitch man!"
Trick is, don't tune up anywhere near anyone else. It only infuriates the normals.
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Default Re: A fart in the fog [Competing with a Bb chanter]

My little pipe band uses Shepherd Bb chanters for a number of reasons. We may compete next year, we will see. At the moment our pitch is not an issue at all because we do not play with, or near, other bands, and the sound we produce is normal to us. We played on Saturday and no-one came up to say that we were too flat, too sharp, or anything like that. The only issues were that our timing was not as good as I would have liked, and the blowing could have been better.
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