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Old 03-25-2020, 08:44 AM   #11
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How long is a 'fair bit of practicing/playing'?
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Old 03-25-2020, 09:26 AM   #12
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I didn't see mention of bag type and whether the drones are wood or plastic.

I had far too much moisture buildup when I tried playing some plastic drones for a while, and I went back to wood.

With wood drones, and a sheepskin bag, or Gannaway bag or GoreTex bag you shouldn't have too much moisture buildup unless you're playing a very long time at one go.

We see it all the time On The Day, when pipers whose pipes are used to a certain amount of playing get over-played. Various sorts of mischief happens with waterlogged pipes like drones cutting out, strike-ins getting trickier, chanter going weak, etc.
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:09 AM   #13
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How long is a 'fair bit of practicing/playing'?
About 30-40+ minutes

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I didn't see mention of bag type and whether the drones are wood or plastic.

I had far too much moisture buildup when I tried playing some plastic drones for a while, and I went back to wood.

With wood drones, and a sheepskin bag, or Gannaway bag or GoreTex bag you shouldn't have too much moisture buildup unless you're playing a very long time at one go.

We see it all the time On The Day, when pipers whose pipes are used to a certain amount of playing get over-played. Various sorts of mischief happens with waterlogged pipes like drones cutting out, strike-ins getting trickier, chanter going weak, etc.

It’s a Bannatyne bag, I’m not sure if it’s a hybrid or regular (It’s the light tan color), but the pipes are ABW Dunbar’s with full imitation ivory.


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I’ll try playing with the moisture control system later today and see if that helps. I do think moisture is the culprit here, but my blowing/squeezing may still need work too, so perhaps it’s both. Hmmmmm.
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:13 AM   #14
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WBpiper,,

A sudden thought... from an oblique perspective... if I may...

Perhaps... just perhaps... it is neither insufficient blowing... nor
is it... excessive moisture upon your reeds.

May I direct attention... to your arm??

Your profile indicates... that you have been in this... our Great
Waltz-About...for some 8-ish years... or so. (Grand!! Ain't It!!

Our bag arm... when we first start out... is foremost in our
minds (along with everything else!! ... but later on... after
we have gained some fledgling confidence (much warranted...
or no ... and our lips do not spasm... and our breath... then
no longer is going... out the sides of our mouths... our fingers
are the more sure on the chanter...and our lungs(??)... coming
along rather nicely...thank you... then... salient thoughts about
our bag arm... begin... their receding... (And... how not?!

Having been through a bit o' this myself... may I suggest... your
having a closer look (or listen ... to what your arm-pressure... is
continuously...producing... all on its own...

Your culprit... may well... lie there... as it does with many...

Just some thoughts...

Regards.. and Good Luck!!... getting it sorted...

Pip01








Good suggestion, I should work on my arm


Oh and although I’ve had my pipes for years, I’ve actually played very infrequently for various reasons But I see where you are coming from. Ever since I got a reed wrangler, my lips and blowing no longer became worries.
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:48 AM   #15
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....yes...its usually the most obvious..and last...thing we look at.
on that note... are the drone reeds themselves well-seated? Or might they need to be rehemped?
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on that note... are the drone reeds themselves well-seated? Or might they need to be rehemped?
Another good suggestion, because, come to think of it, no. They often wiggle in the seats, they have very little hemp on them too, so air should probably add some. They came with a lot of hemp wrapped around them so a I had to remove some. I’ll take a look at it.
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Old 03-25-2020, 12:02 PM   #17
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Itís a Bannatyne bag
My only experience is with their older black hybrid and those were the worst for holding onto moisture. Pipers in the band with those bags were a pita to keep in tune even in Lubbock. Chanters always going flat, especially the bottom hand (e.g. low A). I would look at some heavy moisture control cause 30-40 min isnít that long.
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Old 03-25-2020, 01:13 PM   #18
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Good to know, after that much playing the bag will get very slimy and wet on the inside so I have to open it and take the chanter out to dry.


Moisture control it is then! Iíll put it in and try tonight and see how it goes.


I also added some extra hemp to the drone reeds and applied some cobblers wax as well, though I have yet to test everything
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My only experience is with their older black hybrid and those were the worst for holding onto moisture.
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I think the culprit of the excess moisture has been identified.
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Old 03-25-2020, 01:25 PM   #20
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the bag will get very slimy and wet on the inside so I have to open it and take the chanter out to dry.

Moisture control it is then! Iíll put it in and try tonight and see how it goes.
Or, get a (plain) Gannaway or sheepskin and you won't need moisture control, probably.

Begg has some sheepskin bags now for 112 pounds, and the pound is low now.
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