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Old 02-03-2007, 06:35 PM   #1
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was duthart who came up with the idea to play with chips?

if so y?

does it have to do with musicality? or keeping the corps toegether?

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Old 02-03-2007, 07:19 PM   #2
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i know for sure that one reason for chips were because of problems with messiness of breaks in between tunes...when you have only the LD playing the first measure of the tune after the break, there is a much less of a chance of a catastrophic event in the ensemble.

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Old 02-03-2007, 08:04 PM   #3
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I am no authority on Duthart, and most of what I've learned I have learned here. So, if I am giving any wrong info, somebody please correct me.

Big Alex spent a lot of time playing the big band swing scene. Not only did a lot of his rhythms evolve from this, but the idea of the chips are very similar to the horn pops of the brass section. If you think of a tune like "Sing, Sing, Sing" and you hear the woodwinds carrying the melody with the accents and pops in the trumpets, until the end of the phrase where they all come in together. This is where I believe the chips came from.

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Old 02-04-2007, 07:18 AM   #4
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From what I have been told. Yes Alex Duthart did come up with the "Chips".
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:39 AM   #5
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But why were they called "chips?" They look and sound nothing like American style potatoe chips, and they look and sound nothing like British style fries. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:43 AM   #6
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Kris' explanation is consistent with my understanding as well.

Secondly, when most pipe band drumming was learned by rote, the lead/follow allowed the tip to change up the part at will and have everyone follow along (don't you guys ever play impulsive busker bits with your bands?).
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:08 AM   #7
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CHiPs - created by Rick Rosner, and first performed by officers Ponch and Jon Baker.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:57 AM   #8
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Frank Poncherello and Jon Baker. Those guys were amazing -- fighting crime, being social butterflies, looking cool while being a good role model to teens -- that's hard work. And the ladies loved 'em. I always felt like they made Jon the wingman too much, playing up Ponch's gig. Jon deserved more.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:15 AM   #9
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Customer: may i have 2 flams, a paradiddle and a large diet closed five?
McDutharts server: Would you like chips with that?

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Old 02-08-2007, 09:40 AM   #10
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I think it also has to do with dynamics. I've seen some scores differentiating the lead/solo playing as p (pianissimo) versus the "chips" ff (double forte). Obviously, one drum is (can be) quieter than a bunch. There is also the phrase, "to chip in", meaning to join in, help, etc. I wonder if this phrase predates Alex's use of the word and possibly influenced it? Pure speculation on my part...
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